Logie100 Diglot Newbie New Zealand Joined 5316 days ago 35 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 9 of 39 13 June 2011 at 12:14pm | IP Logged |
I dont think you should use any course what so ever. I've studied German for 3 months without a single course. I've just learned through learning a few basic phrases, then using them on a German chat website, seeing what German people respond with, put it into google translator to get a rough English translation, and then trying to manupulate the answer they gave me into one that I want to use. I can now have chats with Germans past basic introductions and anot just sticking with one tense. Also just listen to German podcasts and watch German videos. I'm writing a ebook on how I'm learning German, if you ( or anyone else) is interested, email me on: logancameron8@yahoo.es
Put the subject a "German Ebook"
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Silenz Newbie AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4913 days ago 23 posts - 33 votes Studies: French, German, Russian
| Message 10 of 39 13 June 2011 at 12:35pm | IP Logged |
Logie100: This is similar to my initial method, but after a few weeks of unsure replies
and confusion, I decided it would probably easier to actually learn in properly
structured manner. So far, it has been much easier. Your method is probably great for
learning how to engage in initial conversation, but will probably fail once you actually
want to talk about anything in particular. If Google translate was actually a reliable
source of translation, it would probably be far better, however, you would find yourself
a lot more reliant on the ctrl+c/v keys than your own knowledge of the German language.
This is just my opinion, however, and maybe it works great for you. Good luck (:
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Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5564 days ago 938 posts - 1840 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 11 of 39 13 June 2011 at 12:40pm | IP Logged |
Well, I did a test after MT + Pimsleur and got Advanced Beginner/Low Intermediate (whatever that means) - which for about 65 hours of learning is probably about right.
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Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5564 days ago 938 posts - 1840 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 12 of 39 13 June 2011 at 12:42pm | IP Logged |
As to free resources there also this:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/0,,2469,00.html
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Logie100 Diglot Newbie New Zealand Joined 5316 days ago 35 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 13 of 39 13 June 2011 at 12:47pm | IP Logged |
Yeah, DW-World is a great resource, especially their webseries "Jojo sucht das Glück" :)
Yeah well, I think its best to make mistakes, that way you have to try correct it again yourself rather than just having the answer given to you. When you make mistakes and are corrected by Germans, you will more likely remember the correct way to say it.
Also another tip, since a great deal of Germans understand English, if you are lost for a German word, just say it in English, so as to not interrupt the flow of your writing
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Silenz Newbie AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4913 days ago 23 posts - 33 votes Studies: French, German, Russian
| Message 15 of 39 13 June 2011 at 3:54pm | IP Logged |
Once you're already somewhat familiar with the language, it should be a good way to pick
up grammar points, and the like. Also, it would probably allow for more informal language
to be picked up, which is obviously more likely to be useful in actual daily life. Just
beginning, with only the bare basics, however, it would probably prove to be more of a
hinderence, as you won't be able to connect very many words at all, and while you're
looking over for words that you know, chances are you will miss out on learning new
words. Again, just my opinion.
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Logie100 Diglot Newbie New Zealand Joined 5316 days ago 35 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 16 of 39 14 June 2011 at 2:11am | IP Logged |
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I don't agree with you at all. for some phrases, yes, and for improve your fluency etc but to read a grammar book is much better than to use google translator (my opinion) |
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I use Google translate to have a basic way to express my thoughts, then I get corrected by German, and memorize that sentence.
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I want to read your German. Is it in your ebook? (I won't agree with that at all, but nevertheless it would be interesting) |
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My German is not perfect and I'm sure it has a bunch of errors but I can explain things very well in German, which is what I thought the person who posted this was aiming for.
My ebook actually has no German in it, it outlines my study techniques and I have compiled a list of German resources.
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