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Arekkusu
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 Message 25 of 42
24 June 2011 at 8:04pm | IP Logged 
To me, the system of the future will recreate the ideal setting: having the perfect teacher available at all times.

It will, among other things, ...

...replace teachers and make classrooms obsolete

The system will consist of an interactive human-like character on screen (or hologram?) that will interact with me and be an ultimate teacher. It will speak to me and understand what I say. It will be pleasant at all times and never tired. People will not be afraid to make mistakes. It will also be complete and will take me from complete beginner to an advanced speaker.

...constantly monitor my progress

It will make note of every difficulty, pause, error and shortcoming, and will adapt the way it teaches me so as to address these effectively. It will be able to make predictions on my future progress and will know exactly how and how much to push me for maximum effectiveness.

...be portable

It will follow me anywhere I go, in a practical format (form factors like the iPad/iPod are already pretty close to that), so that I can maximize any spare time I have. This could create a similar environment to that which children benefit from when learning their L1 from their parents.

...be flexible

It will adapt to the environment I’m in. If I’m in a bus, I will make me work on written material only; if I have a meeting or a trip, it will help me prepare; if I’m at home, it will talk and interact with me; if I’m driving, it will make small talk with me, etc.

...recreate most environments

It will be able to tell what environment I’m in and prepare me for that setting. It will also be able to create a virtual environment so I’m prepared even for places I’ve never been to.

...share knowledge with other “teachers” and improve over time

It will communicate with other “teachers” and gather statistical information about what works and what doesn’t. It will know, having access to all that information, that if certain ways of presenting information in the past has not yielded good results with me, some other methods should also be avoided.
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 Message 26 of 42
26 June 2011 at 1:26am | IP Logged 
Arekkusu wrote:
To me, the system of the future will ...among other things, ...

...replace teachers and make classrooms obsolete


Hopefully, this won't happen until after I retire!

Edited by patuco on 26 June 2011 at 1:27am

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 Message 28 of 42
26 June 2011 at 3:09am | IP Logged 
Artificial Intelligence: feedback and correction on my output and simulated
conversations.


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 Message 29 of 42
26 June 2011 at 4:22am | IP Logged 
For me, the problem with any type of technology that has AI
is the technology itself. The more it tries to emulate human
qualities, the less it seems to do so. I could look to this
teacher (I'm mainly focusing on robots, as that is something
I know a little more about) for confirmation, but it still won't
be like a human being. On closer inspection I'll notice that
facial gestures are human-like, but there's still something
off. I couldn't fathom being taught by a robot (perhaps this
should be considered a cyborg or android?), but for some,
it's a reality. I'd be more open to a virtual reality online
program where I'd be more likely to encounter a human
being that I can practice the language with. Call me old
fashioned, but I think technology is advancing too fast
sometimes.
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Arekkusu
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 Message 30 of 42
26 June 2011 at 5:50am | IP Logged 
Kuikentje wrote:
I wouldn't like to have a teacher who's an hologram at all.

the "real" teachers are sometimes nasty but mostly they're okay, sometimes very nice, for sure better than
the holograms.

The description of that seem horrible, for example:

arekkusu wrote:
It will make note of every difficulty, pause, error and shortcoming, and will adapt the way
it teaches me so as to address these effectively. It will be able to make predictions on my future progress
and will know exactly how and how much to push me for maximum effectiveness.

...be portable

It will follow me anywhere I go, in a practical format (form factors like the iPad/iPod are already pretty close
to that)


I wouldn't like that absolutely NOT.


Who would choose to take time to go to a classroom with an okay teacher when you can be taught by the
finest, most knowledgeable teacher anywhere, anytime?

Using recordings (records, tapes, then mp3) and books is an inferior alternative to having a human teacher,
but we use them partly because we can't have a teacher at all times. I'll take a superior substitute anytime.
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 Message 31 of 42
26 June 2011 at 8:54pm | IP Logged 
Arekkusu wrote:
Who would choose to take time to go to a classroom with an okay teacher when you can be taught by the finest, most knowledgeable teacher anywhere, anytime?

Using recordings (records, tapes, then mp3) and books is an inferior alternative to having a human teacher, but we use them partly because we can't have a teacher at all times. I'll take a superior substitute anytime.

Hang on a minute! Are you saying, on a forum where most people despise school-based language classes and the awful teachers that go with them, that language teachers might actually be relevant and possibly be even better than self-learning using books, CDs, podcasts, the internet, DVDs, etc?

I'm suitably shocked! ;)


P.S. Most, if not all, of the above is tongue-in-cheek...
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 Message 32 of 42
28 June 2011 at 1:11am | IP Logged 
I know a little about statistical machine translation (how google translate etc.
works.) Part of building a MT system involves 'training' it on tens of millions of
words of real texts to build the 'language model.' This is most often just statistics
about what words tend to appear in what contexts. For example, what words do you tend
to find in the context of 'a long walk in the ...' These models are used to choose
between different alternate translations, and to figure out the best word order of the
translation etc.

I suppose you could adapt the software (such as 'Moses') to be able to analyse texts
users write, to find likely errors in syntax and grammar, and things that 'just sound
wrong.' Something like 'the cats sleeps on the floor,' or 'I'd like a glass of coffee.'
Of course, these systems have no understanding of the world we live in, and would never
find an error when we expressed something in a correct way that we didn't intend. I
don't know if anyone is working on something like this.. perhaps this is how MS Office
grammar check works.

Edited by DavidW on 28 June 2011 at 1:12am



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