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| LatinoBoy84 Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5574 days ago 443 posts - 603 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Latvian | Message 1 of 5 03 July 2011 at 2:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hi Guys,
I was just hoping to get some feedback on a good 2nd year Russian textbook. As a Reference I already have both Living Language volumes, Using Russian, Liguaphone, Penguin, the Princeton course, two Assimil courses and both volumes of Modern Russian (Dawson). I was thinking about getting either Nachalo's or Golosa's 2nd year courses. I would skip over the first year courses (I have enough elementary textbooks). Has anyone used either series? I thought that maybe a good second year text would be great for reference and review. Edited by LatinoBoy84 on 04 July 2011 at 3:18pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7014 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 5 05 July 2011 at 5:14pm | IP Logged | ||
...or, alternatively, you could attempt some native materials. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Tecktight Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States Joined 4975 days ago 227 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, Serbian Studies: German, Russian, Estonian | Message 3 of 5 05 July 2011 at 8:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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So, I'm a university student whose curriculum uses Golosa.
As a matter of fact, my professors are the ones who wrote it. I have only taken one year of the course so far, using Golosa 1, and, personally, I am not fond of the book at all. Perhaps it's my learning style, but I find the book poorly organized, especially when it comes to the grammar explanations. The grammar charts are a bit jumbled up, and rather than give a few easy instructions, like "in Dative, the ending is usually this ___" and specify the most common exceptions in a clear manner, Golosa has something like: "For masculine, the ending is ___, EXCEPT when its this ____ this ____ this ____ (well, not always, actually--see the sidenote on page. 350) and that ___. Oh, also (three pages later) it will say "we forgot to add ___" And, furthermore, instead of this being simply stated on 1-2 pages, it will be broken up (separated by vocab/dialogues) throughout the chapter. For example, on page 10, it will give you the declension ending for a feminine noun, and it will say that there are exceptions or changes to these endings in x, y, and z cases. It will not offer explanations for why that is, and so you think you're blissfully done with the grammar for this chapter. Not so! Page 21 will launch into an explanation of what you've by now forgotten on page 10, and it will add more exceptions, to boot. Based on what I have seen of Book 2, it is much the same. I guess my complaint is just about the organization of information. That said, most kids in my class love the book. Part of this, I'd imagine, is due to the fact that they have simply never tried using other materials, believing, perhaps, that as our professors wrote the book, the entire realm of Russian is confined within Golosa's pages. Or, at least, their grade is based on that assumption. Also, I forgot to add, the book provides no answers to the exercises. I believe this is because our homework consists of exercises featured in the textbook and workbook. We hand these exercises in to our professor, who marks them up. That's an alright system for most, I suppose, but it makes it very difficult for me to study for tests, as I have nothing to practice with. Now I use a fantastic workbook I picked up in Moscow. I'd give you the name of it, but I don't have it with me, at the moment (I'm traveling), and I don't think it's available online, anyway. When I get back home, I'll look into that for you. The workbook is an all-around grammar book, so it goes beyond Golosa 1 or 2. Anyway, all of our lectures are based off the textbook and supplement it, so Golosa, for most in my class, is a great learning tool. That said, I wouldn't recommend it if you're trying to learn the language on your own (especially because of the lattermost reason) Edited by Tecktight on 05 July 2011 at 8:45pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| hobbitofny Senior Member United States Joined 6232 days ago 280 posts - 408 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian | Message 4 of 5 05 July 2011 at 9:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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I would recommend vol 3 of В.Е. Антонова, Дорога в Россию or
Н.Б. Караванова, Говорите Правильно! Курс русской рфзговорной речи Russky Yazyk Kursy in Moscow publishs many great Russian language learning texts. Also check on anything producted or used at Moscow State University. http://www.russia-on-line.com/ imports many of the best course books from Russia. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| LatinoBoy84 Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5574 days ago 443 posts - 603 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Latvian | Message 5 of 5 06 July 2011 at 3:36am | IP Logged | ||
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patuco, I will...eventually.
Tecktight, thanks for the feedback, sound like I already have more that enough books to cover anything I might find in a second year text. hobbitofny...WOW amazing bookstore, sooo many books! Thank you for sharing. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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