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| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6650 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 1 of 16 12 July 2011 at 2:19am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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So, for the sake of motivation, I’ll put this out ‘ere hoping for some pep talk along the way. Though dead
languages doesn’t seem to be the most popular stuff around here I’ll do it anyway :). I’ve seen Iversen writing in Latin and there are occasinally some discussion regarding the subject. Goal: Being able to finally take my last universety credits from 2008 (Thus being able tro read and translate a speech by Cicero, In Catilinam I, a part of Ceasars De Bellô Gallicô, to read, understand and to scan selected poems by Catullus and Ovid), to have a full command of the latin verbal system and have a good comprehension of the most frequent words of classical Latin. Time limit: October, becase then I will have to switch my focus to Akkadian since I will study Assyriology this fall, and the time I’ll be able to put on latin will be less. Materials: Ørberg’s lovely, wonder full Lingua Latina per se Illustrata, the woork book, Lingua Latina a College Companion (for us pesky self studiers), Practise makes perfect: Latin verbs, a grammar, a dictionary and the regular verisons if the etxt I must be able to read with booring commentaries. Method: Read and listen to the text in LL ad nauseam, this can be done whenever (listening) and when I wake up and before I go to bed (reading). Also do the exercises. Work through the Practise makes perfect book (because man those Latin verbs are pesky f*ckers…). As soon as I’ve finished LL I will try to read Ceasar, the commentaried text I have has the wonderful featue of being a bilingual reader (Latin on one side, Swedish on the other!) — due to this feature I might read it early on albeit not able to comprehend it, just to stuff good Latin into my inner corpus. I think listening is an important part, and since I have audio resources, it will greatly aid my progress (i.e. being able to think and listen to latin whilst doing other stuff!). Wish me luck :D 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6650 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 2 of 16 12 July 2011 at 5:19am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Heading to bed, time to read a paragraph or to in LL.
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| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6650 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 3 of 16 13 July 2011 at 2:56am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I read through a chapter whilst my parents were watching (crappy) television. I’m spending a week at theirs because
I’m currently very low and in need of some mother’s care. I have, however, brought all my Latin materials and shall try to contintue my studies. Tomorrow I will hope to do some exercises to actively reinforce the stuff I learn. By reading the gradually more advanced text in Lingua Latina I’ve come to realise that the verbs, albeit their many forms, are not the hardest word class to deal with: but rather, it’s the nouns. The cases and their functions are so many (and they all have names thanks to German 19th century philologists). I’ve gladly noticed though that I’ve begun to understand the use of the dative and ablative more and more without analyzing what kind it is. I think that I’ve seen ablativus instrumentalis, ablativus commodi and ablativus comparativus today. Bonam noctem! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5000 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 4 of 16 13 July 2011 at 12:01pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Great beginning of the log, I'm looking forward to continuing. Even though I said my goodbye to latin some time ago(but I still have to pass an exam of medical latin quite soon), it is great to see that you didn't let the grammar scare you off.
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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6694 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 5 of 16 13 July 2011 at 1:07pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Do you intend to learn Latin as an active language too?
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| Alexander86 Tetraglot Senior Member United Kingdom alanguagediary.blogs Joined 4972 days ago 224 posts - 323 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German, Catalan Studies: Swedish | Message 6 of 16 13 July 2011 at 2:55pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Keep up the good work! =)
Would love to hear more about the Akkadian and Assyriology. You mention that the noun cases can be problematic, but surely your German can help you? Anyway, it's all a matter of time and determination. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6650 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 7 of 16 13 July 2011 at 8:15pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Thank god medical Latin only requires (as far as I’ve understood it) comprehension of word formation and the genitive case (since you’re not interested in Latin anymore)! I like grammar! As I’ve only insinuated but not said straight out I’ve taken a Latin course at the Stockholm University, but I did only pass the grammar part and did not do the prose and poetry exams. However, what I with haste crammed in before the exams: paradigms mostly, are now as good as gone. With only a grammar book and loosely selected exaple sentences the reinforcement were not the best.
Yes, but a part from some odd sentences here and there I’ll save that part for later. There’s a vast collection of old Latin books from the late 19th and the early 20th century and among them of course prose composition, verse composition and last but not least even conversation books! Though: verbs and LL first, then Ceasar, then Cicero, then maybe I will do some active composition and talking.
I might just llog about Akkadian when I begin with that — and perhaps take tips from people who study kanji when it comes to cuneiform signs ;). As for cases, I never understood them bevore I read a Latin book in high school. What is hard is not the basic usages i.e. subject nominative, direct object ackusative, indirect object dative, agent/instrument ablative. But the more esoteric casus usages makes one a bit dizzy… Dativus possesivus, ablativus in/commodi, accusativus viae, genitivus pretii, genitivus memoriae, &c. &c. Though one might argue that it’s useless for someone to know the names — I would lovingly agree, but I need to know them if I am to be able to pass the exam because part of it is gramatical analysis… But, I promise, when I come to poetry I will hate the feets of metre! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6285 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin | Message 8 of 16 13 July 2011 at 9:25pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
There is also a program that accompanies Ørberg’s book that has audio files of the entire book, the text of the entire book, and the nifty feature of built in checking of the end of chapter exercises. (One of these days I'm hoping to finish working through it.) Huge value for money. Amazon used to sell it. Perhaps other vendors do as well. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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