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Juan M. Senior Member Colombia Joined 5903 days ago 460 posts - 597 votes
| Message 41 of 45 11 August 2009 at 11:29pm | IP Logged |
I don't know what the point would be for a journalist (or anyone else, for that matter) to learn Esperanto, since it grants access to no society, no people, and no intellectual, literary or religious tradition.
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| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5842 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 42 of 45 12 August 2009 at 1:45pm | IP Logged |
Thanks for posting these links!
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6474 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 43 of 45 12 August 2009 at 5:40pm | IP Logged |
JuanM wrote:
I don't know what the point would be for a journalist (or anyone else, for that matter) to learn Esperanto, since it grants access to no society, no people, and no intellectual, literary or religious tradition. |
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Please research the subject before you post claims like that. Just because you may not have heard of e. g. Georgian literature does not mean that it doesn't exist - just that its treasures are harder to obtain if you don't speak the language.
If you would like to get an overview of the different literary movements in Esperanto and an introduction to the best-received works, I recommend the Concise Encyclopedia of Original Literature in Esperanto. The price is a bit steep, but then the book is 720 pages, hardcover... Amazon allows you a look inside before you buy.
Edited by Sprachprofi on 12 August 2009 at 5:42pm
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| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5842 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian
| Message 44 of 45 15 August 2009 at 5:05pm | IP Logged |
Just to let you know taht a new thread for Esperanto learners have been started in the Learning Log room. It's open for all to report their progress, comment or ask question. Welcome!
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6443 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 45 of 45 15 August 2009 at 11:53pm | IP Logged |
JuanM wrote:
I don't know what the point would be for a journalist (or anyone else, for that matter) to learn Esperanto, since it grants access to no society, no people, and no intellectual, literary or religious tradition. |
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Esperanto has granted me access to a number of people I wouldn't have otherwise contacted, as well as a rather distinct, playful, and fun culture.
The literary tradition is rather large - it definitely feels out of proportion with the number of speakers. Some of it is rather good - the language can be used very poetically, and original literature contains everything from near-fatal non-fiction tales of adventurous traveling to one work which was repeatedly nominated for the noble prize in literature.
I also really like the culture of literary translations in Esperanto - there's not much money to be earned from it, so they seem to generally be done by native speakers of the original language, who actually care about what they're translating. I've enjoyed reading anthologized Hungarian literature, a Basque novel, and dipping into Georgian poetry - all in Esperanto translation. Plenty of under-represented cultures have work translated into Esperanto - I plan to make time to read a Frisian anthology soon.
As for religious traditions: there are three which are strongly associated with Esperanto - namely, the Bahai faith, Spiritism (it's almost considered synonymous with Esperanto in Brazil by people outside both groups, I hear), and the followers of Saint Martinus (a small religious group originating in Denmark, somewhat based on Christianity, with the addition of a third testament, etc - they more or less consider it a religious obligation to learn Esperanto). For some rather odd logistical reasons, I shared quite a few meals with a Saint Martinus follower recently - he learned Esperanto because of his religion, and told me quite a bit about it, in Esperanto.
There are also, of course, followers of other religious traditions (and followers of none) who speak Esperanto, and have been pretty much throughout its history. This leads to a sense of religious diversity in the culture which I quite like - it reminds me of living in Canada, and is a sharp contrast to the relative religious homogeneity of many other areas.
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