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Lucky Charms Diglot Senior Member Japan lapacifica.net Joined 6949 days ago 752 posts - 1711 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 9 of 42 24 August 2010 at 6:59am | IP Logged |
Desacrator48 wrote:
Persian - that other Arabic-region language, but one, albeit with a more concentrated and centralized region and culture around a present-day country. Sounds more appealing than Arabic. Often confused with Arabic. Language of some very good looking women who are unfortunately forced to cover up. Not the case in Los Angeles, thankfully. |
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I thought it's more like this:
Persian: The language of Xerxes and Cyrus, beautiful women, elaborate carpets, and Princess Jasmine. Persians and those who learn Persian are exotic, mysterious, and cultured.
Farsi: That other Arabic-region language (possibly another name for, or a dialect of Arabic). A language spoken by Islamic extremists. Iranians and those who learn Farsi are intent on undermining the American way of life.
Edited by Lucky Charms on 24 August 2010 at 7:05am
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| MäcØSŸ Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5809 days ago 259 posts - 392 votes Speaks: Italian*, EnglishC2 Studies: German
| Message 10 of 42 25 August 2010 at 9:30am | IP Logged |
If I told my friends that I want to learn Telugu they’d probably replay “What are you learning an african language
for?”...
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| Ichiro Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6209 days ago 111 posts - 152 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, French Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Korean, Malay
| Message 11 of 42 25 August 2010 at 12:32pm | IP Logged |
Blimey O'Reilly! The public TV here in Singapore is still showing Mind Your Language late at night. Anyone from the UK remember that show?
If you want to see a bunch of stereotypes of the people who want to learn English, that's the place to go.
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| vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6960 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese
| Message 12 of 42 25 August 2010 at 1:27pm | IP Logged |
Lucky Charms wrote:
These aren't necessarily my personal stereotypes, but my impression of what kind of stereotypes are generally held.
Esperanto: Hippy-ish cult members who can't shut up about how beautiful it's made their lives, and are always preaching to others about why they should join, too. Kind of like vegans.
Norwegian, Old Norse: Listens to metal.
Latin: A few generations older than I am. An ivory-tower academic. Has a study full of old, dusty tomes, which he prefers to the company of people.
Spanish: U PICKED AN EASY LANGUAGE LOL
A white guy learning an East/Southeast Asian language: Someone told him Asian girls are easy. |
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Lucky Charm what about who studies japanese and German ? = are they wannabies conquerors of the world like Hitler and Hiro Hito?
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| Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6034 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds
| Message 13 of 42 25 August 2010 at 1:34pm | IP Logged |
EDIT: Oh. I just noticed the OP actually asks about the character of the language learners, not the natives of a given language. Whereas I'm posting about national stereotypes. Sorry for being off-topic.
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Some of the stereotypes I have verified first hand:
French women - very polite, friendly, and in many cases cute ^_^
French men - rude and short tempered
British women - reserved and polite on the whole
British men - most older men, like in their 40+, are polite and reserved
Younger Brits are less reserved and less polite.
Italians - haughty and emotional
Spaniards - friendly and emotional
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Some unverified stereotypes:
Vietnamese - the nation consists of martial artists, monks, and rice farmers (in my childish mind at least)
Japanese - very introspective and polite; like to move in groups
Koreans - sort of like the Japanese
Germans - obsessed with precision; humourless (I'm sure that's not true )
Scandinavians - extremely open-minded, accept any form of sexuality (that's ok with me)
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I hope this isn't too insulting for anybody (but I suspect it is :).
Edited by Sennin on 25 August 2010 at 1:51pm
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| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7015 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 14 of 42 25 August 2010 at 5:40pm | IP Logged |
Ichiro wrote:
The public TV here in Singapore is still showing Mind Your Language late at night. Anyone from the UK remember that show? |
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Not only do I remember it, but I've got all the episodes. It's a great source of political incorrectness and stereotypes.
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| ThisIsGina Groupie United Kingdom languageblogbygina.w Joined 5318 days ago 56 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Romanian, Catalan, Greek, German, French
| Message 15 of 42 25 August 2010 at 6:03pm | IP Logged |
If a girl wants to learn French, Italian or Spanish, people assume it's because the men in those countries are known for being sexy.
For Russian (or in fact almost any Eastern European language), people assume you're a communist or just very weird.
And if you want to learn Polish (in Britain) you can't mention it without receiving a snide comment about immigrants. Or maybe it's just the people I know who react like that, I don't know.
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| RMM Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5227 days ago 91 posts - 215 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Italian, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Swedish, Japanese
| Message 16 of 42 25 August 2010 at 6:09pm | IP Logged |
Desacrator48 wrote:
English - the language spoken in America and also in the UK. Patriots would have you believe it's as American as any American institution like baseball, when in fact both have its origins in Europe. Present day US at one point in history had large territories of Spanish and French speaking settlers, but just so happened that the English speaking part bought up/conquered these areas on the way to complete sea-to-sea expansion. Increasingly being seen as a language unique to America, of which we are rightly and justly proud of...England, Canada, and Australia be damned.
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French - the language I actually wanted to study because of my affinity for the way it sounds. Didn't study it for years because Spanish had more immediate dividends. People who took French in high school (including a lot of my friends) were in the strong minority and were seen as non-conformists. Probably hates Mexicans. |
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I'm from the US too, but I don't understand where you're getting these stereotyes from. I've never in my life heard a fellow American suggest that English was "a language unique to America" or that English doesn't have its origins in Europe. EVERY American (who isn't literally mentally disabled) knows that English originally came from England and that it is spoken in many countries around the world. I've never in my life met one who didn't know this. Many Americans recognize the undeniable fact that English has been by far the most spoken language in the US since its founding in the 1700s and would like to keep it that way. Surely, you don't see that as the same thing as thinking that English is originally from and only spoken in America?!
Of course, you are right that parts of the US were once the territories of France, Spain, and Mexico (and also the Netherlands and Sweden, if you're keeping track), but of course there were never large numbers of Spanish or French speakers in these areas. They were spread out very, very thinly over a vast area of land. I'm not really sure what your point of bringing any of this up is anyway. None of these are commonplace or general stereotypes about English within the US, so it seems that your purpose is just to insult Americans who would like to see English as the official language of the US. Do you also object to the fact that Spanish is the official language of Columbia, Peru, Venezuela, Guatemala, Cuba, Ecuador, Bolivia, Honduras, El Salvador, Costa Rica, and other countries where the original languages were of indigenous American Indian origin? Spanish is not the original language spoken in these areas, but would you try to deny that Spanish really is the language of these countries?
I do agree that French learners are sometimes seen as non-conformists here, since Spanish is almost a requirement in the US nowadays. However, I've never heard the stereotype that French learners hate Mexicans. That's a rather harsh thing to claim, don't you think?
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