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Do any other languages use an English R?

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chucknorrisman
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 Message 25 of 30
26 October 2010 at 4:35pm | IP Logged 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C9%B9
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lynxrunner
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 Message 26 of 30
27 October 2010 at 1:30am | IP Logged 
Risch wrote:
I wasn't aware that there was a significant difference between the
British and American
'r'. I mean, obviously, syllable-final r's are dropped in most regions of England.
But
the syllable-initial and intervolic R are different from that of North America? Is
there
a different IPA symbol for this pronunciation?

Okay, I just chuned into BBC4 and if there's a difference it's so slight as to be only
of
interest to linguists. It still sounds like the same familiar rhotic sound that I've
never heard in any language I've studied before.


I was going to post the same thing here. I recall reading that Americans are more
likely to use the "bunched r" than Englishmen, but the sound produced is identical.

The bunched r is, I think, the retroflex approximant. Many speakers of American English
use this type of R as opposed to the alveolar approximant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroflex_approximant

Some links about bunched r:
http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?
prog=normal&id=JASMAN000095000005002823000001&idtype=cvips&g ifs=yes&bypassSSO=1
http://voiceguy.ca/blog/voiceguy/really-larry-r-and-l
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 Message 27 of 30
27 October 2010 at 1:58am | IP Logged 
lynxrunner wrote:

I was going to post the same thing here. I recall reading that Americans are more
likely to use the "bunched r" than Englishmen, but the sound produced is identical.

The bunched r is, I think, the retroflex approximant. Many speakers of American English
use this type of R as opposed to the alveolar approximant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroflex_approximant


I can validate that. I almost always would say the retroflex approximant /ɻ/ for an 'r' sound in English. The other, the alveolar approximant, just sounds a bit off...
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 Message 28 of 30
27 October 2010 at 3:28am | IP Logged 
Felidae wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHMahiG0u8w


Yeah, Piracicaba is one of those towns I mentioned. I live near Piracicaba (Campinas), but the accent is so much different! We use the 'r' in the end of words, and they use it no matter where the 'r' is. I love their accent, though I think it's getting lost.. most of teenagers just deny their accent. Television might be the reason for that, it's "forbidden" to the journalists to talk with the caipira accent, no matter if it's "heavy" (like Piracicaba) or "light" (like Campinas).
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Lindsay19
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 Message 29 of 30
29 January 2011 at 2:09am | IP Logged 
egill wrote:
Don't forget Faroese.


Yes, though I would compare the "r" they use to a British one.

Edited by Lindsay19 on 29 January 2011 at 2:09am

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 Message 30 of 30
30 January 2011 at 11:07pm | IP Logged 
MäcØSŸ wrote:
It’s used in some dialects of Dutch, Swedish and German, as well as in
Mandarin,Vietnamese, Tamil, Malayalam and
Eastern Armenian.


The Tamil (ழ) and Malayalam (ഴ) sounds are kind of close to the American R but still
pretty different.. The tongue needs to go further behind to pronounce ழ/ഴ.


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