alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7221 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 1 of 6 03 November 2010 at 11:02am | IP Logged |
I would like to find out which communities in the world can be found probably in every country and many places within the country. Of course due to this, the ability to seek out and practice the particular language. I am not including Esperanto, as I have not found a club or someone in my province. I am an Esperantist, but I feel the worldwide community is too scarce or none in some places.
English communities are not as widespread, as I first thought. This has been from my personal experience.
Let me start with two I feel are close to a sure thing.
Chinese- Mandarin
Filipino- Tagalog
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Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6582 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 2 of 6 03 November 2010 at 12:15pm | IP Logged |
Many overseas Chinese communities are scant on Mandarin, though. It's on the increase, but until the last thirty years or so, the vast majority of emigrants were from the south and thus Cantonese speakers*. Nowadays just about all Cantonese speakers in the mainland can also speak Mandarin, but this wasn't true at the time of a lot of these emigrations.
I'm not very knowledgeable about this and hope someone with personal experience can contribute.
*EDIT: And also Fukkien? As I said, I'm not an expert on this.
Edited by Ari on 03 November 2010 at 1:12pm
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6439 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 3 of 6 03 November 2010 at 4:33pm | IP Logged |
Neither Mandarin (or Cantonese - many expat communities speak that, as Ari quite correctly pointed out) nor Tagalog are close to universal; like Esperanto and English, they are found in many places, but far from all.
You're looking for something that, to the best of my knowledge, does not exist.
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alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7221 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 4 of 6 05 November 2010 at 11:54am | IP Logged |
Of course these communities are not found everywhere.
It would be hard pressed not to find a Chinese community almost in every country in the world. Even though there probably are some that might not have one.
Please stay on topic when it is about most widespread cultural communities not about universal language spoken everywhere. English is a big one in the Philippines, but my experience in the provinces many people avoid or are terrible when trying to speak it, if they are able to speak it at all. This refers to the regular person like a vendor on the street.
The language is added to the fact some members in a cultural community is still willing to practice the heritage language. One sad part also true are many members do not know how to speak the heritage language. I am adding that I am one of them.
Edited by alang on 05 November 2010 at 12:10pm
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Lumulo Triglot Newbie CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6354 days ago 27 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, Italian Studies: Mandarin
| Message 5 of 6 10 November 2010 at 5:08pm | IP Logged |
Alang, which Canadian province do you live in, if you don't mind me asking? When I first
began studying Esperanto, I was convinced that I was the only Esperantist in Ottawa,
only to discover an active group that met near my neighbourhood.
Edited by Lumulo on 10 November 2010 at 5:09pm
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alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7221 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 6 of 6 13 November 2010 at 12:21pm | IP Logged |
Volte,
I have sent you a PM a couple of days ago. My apologies if there was any misinterpretation. There was nothing in my outbox, so I am not sure if you received it.
It is most widespread cultural communities I am searching for not the most widespread language speaking communities. There was an article I saw, that many Filipinos work abroad. Chinese and Filipinos are thought to be the most widespread. I listed the languages, as they could be languages that someone might be able to practice with.
When I list the Filipino community and the Tagalog language there is possibility of speakers. Although there is a cultural community it does not mean a language which is associated with the culture is present. Chinese I listed Mandarin, but additional Chinese languages can be added also, if many speak a different language aside from Mandarin.
Example: There are Scandinavian communities in my province. Three clubs I contacted not one person spoke a Scandinavian language, but there is still communities here. I googled Chinese community in Switzerland and some sites did pop up, even if they might not live near you.
Lumulo,
I live in Saskatchewan and to my knowledge there is another Esperantist in a small town somewhere. I have looked at the Esperanto Canada website indicating clubs, but I still have found nothing in Saskatchewan.
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