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Alexander86
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 Message 1 of 12
16 December 2011 at 6:56pm | IP Logged 
Yesterday I strode out of UCL (University College London) after my conference had finished and walked down a
block and entered the Waterstones book store on the corner, which I'm glad to say had a massive collection of
language material that would have pleased the whole forum. Its Spanish and Italian language collections were
excellent, its German and Portuguese also, and the Greek and Latin and associated historic literature was
overflowing with texts. It was a good find, I even found the Swedish texts I wanted to browse through (before
buying online).

I then wandered on to the British Museum, like so many other people heading for the one thing it is most famous
for holding, The Rosetta Stone. I basically walked straight towards it, knowing that I could see that first and then
move around the other objects related to it in the most impressive of rooms. It impressed me, even after seeing it
hundreds of times in pictures, on TV and so forth. It's quite a small stone (it was originally rather larger) and seeing
the three texts together - Greek, Demotic and Hieroglyphs - I thought of all the other language learners and lovers
that there are here on this forum. It's a must-see, a wonderful piece of history, but my journey did not end there.

I stayed in that room a while, pausing at an obelisk and several other stones full of those most wonderful of things:
Egyptian Hieroglyphs. I remember seeing them as a kid, such vivid imagery, completely different to the banal
roman alphabet of the languages I speak. I then moved round to the Enlightenment Room, which had a section on
scripts and languages. I saw Chinese, Persian, Linear B, Coptic, Japanese, Tibetan and more. It was a language orgy,
so to speak.

But my question is, what other language marvels should I try to see? Which museum exhibits, engravings, letters,
and so on would you recommend from your homelands or travels?

Edited by Alexander86 on 16 December 2011 at 6:58pm

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WentworthsGal
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16 December 2011 at 7:06pm | IP Logged 
LOL! At first I thought you were talking about there being a Rosetta Stone language course booth at the British Museum!! I didn't even know the Rosetta Stone was there - definitely something to go and see :o) thanks for posting :o)

As to your question, I'm afraid I don't know.

Edited by WentworthsGal on 16 December 2011 at 7:07pm

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Jeffers
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16 December 2011 at 7:22pm | IP Logged 
If you get the chance to visit India, Ashoka inscriptions are fascinating. I went to school for 6 years in a school in the Himalayas, then worked there for several years. It was only when I'd been there about 10 years total that I found out there was an Ashoka inscription like 40 miles away. So a friend and I drove there to have a look.

Unlike the Rosetta Stone, I couldn't make out any of the script. But, we were able to touch it with our own hands, which was a moving experience. The information on plaques nearby said that this particular inscription mentioned several Roman emperors by name.

The inscription was carved onto a large rock in the ground, so it wasn't moved to a museum. The British build a building over it to protect it. In their anachronistic way, the shelter is built in an Islamic style. Here's a pic of the building. Here's a picture of the edict inside the building. Since I visited, they've put up a gate.
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Hampie
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16 December 2011 at 7:28pm | IP Logged 
I’d suggest going to the Louvre and looking at the Law Stele of Ḫammurapi; which is the oldest law codex to be
preserved in it’s wholeness. That and some clay tables! It’s a pity to miss one of the biggest and most widely used
scripts of all time: cuneiform!
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Delodephius
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 Message 5 of 12
16 December 2011 at 8:53pm | IP Logged 
The only inscriptions that I ever saw were the Tabula Traian, a giant plaque carved into
the side of the mountain in Djerdap, on the Serbian side of the Danube. It commemorates
the building of the road that went along the Danube and into the Djerdap canyon which
then joined the first ever build bridge across the river into Dacia. The bridge no longer
exists, just a few columns that held it.
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strikingstar
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16 December 2011 at 8:58pm | IP Logged 
I've seen fragments of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

The Gandharan Buddhist Texts. Oldest discovered Buddhist manuscripts.
link



For Classical Chinese, there's...

Chu Silk Manuscript (~300 BC)
Contains works on Chinese astrology and astronomy as well as creation myths of Fuxi and
Nuwa.

Zhangjiashan Bamboo Text (~200 BC)
Contains Book of Numbers and Computaition, one of the earliest Chinese mathematical
works.

Mawangdui Silk Texts (~170 BC).
From Wiki:
Quote:
They include some of the earliest attested manuscripts of existing texts such as
the I Ching, two copies of the Tao Te Ching, one similar copy of Strategies of the
Warring States, and a similar school of works of Gan De and Shi Shen, as well as
previously unknown medical texts like Recipes for Fifty-Two Ailments. Scholars arranged
them into silk books of 28 kinds. Together they count to about 120,000 words covering
military strategy, mathematics, cartography and the six classical arts of ritual,
music, archery, horsemanship, writing and arithmetic.


Yinqueshan Bamboo Slips. Contains chapters of the Art of War. (~130 BC)

Edited by strikingstar on 16 December 2011 at 9:13pm

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rivere123
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16 December 2011 at 11:31pm | IP Logged 
That's quite interesting. If I ever get a chance to go to London, I'll remember that... oh, yeah, and the Rosetta Stone too. Gosh, that bookstore sounds awesome.
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psy88
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16 December 2011 at 11:46pm | IP Logged 
You said it was small. I always pictured it as large, from the photos I had seen. What were the dimensions of the stone? Why is it smaller now?


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