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| Chevalier Diglot Groupie Brazil Joined 4707 days ago 53 posts - 104 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, English | Message 9 of 17 23 January 2012 at 3:20pm | IP Logged | ||
That reminds me of a friend studying French and saying that there were so many English words there.. Words such as: "adorable, restaurant, adolescent, preservative, liquid". 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Wilhelm Schulz Newbie United States schulzlanguages.com Joined 4690 days ago 13 posts - 13 votes Speaks: English* | Message 10 of 17 27 January 2012 at 3:27am | IP Logged | ||
Yes, there are quite a few loan words in non-English languages nowadays. This seems to be the case especially in the European languages. As someone said above, English is now the lingua franca (as French seems to be waning) and that is probably the cause of all these loan words. Since the end of World War II at least, English has been growing in influence. It now seems that most major publications, films, and books are written in English - or speedily translated into it. Because of all these English influences in their cultures, foreign languages tend to pick up English words, especially in the case of technology. Even the German word das Handy, which means "cell phone" is a loan from English. Sure, it's not a direct loan like der Computer, but it is from English nonetheless. In fact, German people who visit English-speaking countries tend to wonder why people have no idea what a "handy" is, since they borrowed the word from English! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| hatulz Tetraglot Newbie Brazil Joined 4686 days ago 4 posts - 11 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Spanish, English, Italian | Message 11 of 17 27 January 2012 at 9:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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Like others said it's certainly a result of the status English has recently as lingua franca. You'd be
amazed to how much % you would understand from a Brazilian IT CEO speech. Every third word is in English. The text would be like this: Temos que aproveitar o timing e fazer o deploy das novas apps agora. Observando os profiles dos candidatos, teremos que buscar os outstanding, aqueles que trazem o melhor ROI (return on investment) pra empresa. Just an example, real world example would contain more English words ahaha. You may add to that the fact that English is perceived at least by the Brazilians as the simplest language in the world. Very short words, no verb, noun or adjective conjugations, no case declensions, it's incredibly simple. (roughly speaking and as compared to any latin language at least) Edited by hatulz on 27 January 2012 at 9:11pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| nway Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Vic Joined 5415 days ago 574 posts - 1707 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean | Message 12 of 17 28 January 2012 at 2:50am | IP Logged | ||
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It's hard for me to understand how anyone could actually be surprised by the fact that English is an influential language...
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| zekecoma Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5344 days ago 561 posts - 655 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish | Message 13 of 17 28 January 2012 at 3:19am | IP Logged | ||
It's not hard, but (just my opinion) it feels like the more influence English has on other languages. It will end up becoming more English, rather than the native words. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| nway Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Vic Joined 5415 days ago 574 posts - 1707 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean | Message 14 of 17 28 January 2012 at 3:42am | IP Logged | ||
Considering that even English and Dutch aren't mutually intelligible whatsoever, I really doubt you have to worry about the likes of Russian, Japanese, Arabic, and Mandarin becoming so similar to English that they're indistinguishable. Besides, most loan words (English and otherwise) are not only adapted but internalized into the unique structural framework of the absorbing language such that they become indecipherable to speakers of the original language. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Wilhelm Schulz Newbie United States schulzlanguages.com Joined 4690 days ago 13 posts - 13 votes Speaks: English* | Message 15 of 17 28 January 2012 at 4:02am | IP Logged | ||
It is my experience that some loan words in Russian are actually mistakes in translation. For example, the Russian word for "train station" (I cannot spell it, but it sounds like "vok-sahl") is actually the name of one of the first train stations in London. When Russian workers came to work there, they didn't speak English very well and they thought that "vok-sahl" meant "train station", hence the Russian word. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| zekecoma Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5344 days ago 561 posts - 655 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish | Message 16 of 17 28 January 2012 at 4:10am | IP Logged | ||
Yup. I already know about that story. ;D 1 person has voted this message useful |
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