Lucky Charms Diglot Senior Member Japan lapacifica.net Joined 6949 days ago 752 posts - 1711 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 9 of 15 27 May 2012 at 10:19am | IP Logged |
I agree with aldo. I studied Linguistics at a US university and never saw APA used in a
class, textbook, or academic paper. IPA was the standard for everything.
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Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6659 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin
| Message 10 of 15 27 May 2012 at 3:35pm | IP Logged |
aldo wrote:
Hampie where did you do linguistics--because that is patently wrong advice. IPA is what
all papers are presented in (all phonology sketches etc are written in IPA--not something
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If you only look at the phonemic inventory of a language in linguistics textbooks, that might be true, but what kind
of linguist is that? Reading nothing in languages? Reading no books published by languages scholars and
philologists? Learning both isn't hard. The more you know, the better.
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LaughingChimp Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4699 days ago 346 posts - 594 votes Speaks: Czech*
| Message 11 of 15 27 May 2012 at 11:33pm | IP Logged |
In what exactly is APA more accurate than IPA?
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aldo Triglot Groupie Thailand Joined 6596 days ago 50 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English*, French, SpanishB1 Studies: Italian, German, Dutch, Mandarin, Thai, Khmer, Malay
| Message 12 of 15 01 June 2012 at 5:31am | IP Logged |
A REAL linguist is what that would be Hampie and not some dilettantish tyro. And you did
linguistics where, again?
The differences between APA and IPA requires a class. As with any profound academic
subject, you can't just glean everything about languages from a free forum on the
internet.
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6439 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 13 of 15 01 June 2012 at 9:31am | IP Logged |
aldo wrote:
A REAL linguist is what that would be Hampie and not some dilettantish tyro. And you did
linguistics where, again?
The differences between APA and IPA requires a class. As with any profound academic
subject, you can't just glean everything about languages from a free forum on the
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Stop the personal attacks, please.
Not all papers use IPA, and plenty of older material also doesn't. If you have not come across it yourself, fine, but to deny this material exists is a bit mind-boggling. You can find some starting points at the wikipedia page on APA. Here's a specific example, published in 2005: On the etymology of the verbal root "t?l" 'to play' and its cognates in North-Eastern Neo-Aramaic.
No one has mentioned "gleaning everything from a free forum on the internet". Personally, I've never taken a formal class on linguistics: but I have read many academic webpages, a fair number of PhD theses and grammars, and have about a shelf of linguistics books, many of which are aimed at graduate students. And I consider Hampie to be a good deal more knowledgeable on these topics than I am.
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Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6659 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin
| Message 14 of 15 01 June 2012 at 12:28pm | IP Logged |
I do not study "linguistics" I study philology, but that is language science too, and I'm accustomed to IPA. As far as
"free sources" concern I've found many being quite high quality things on-line, even in the subjects I study. And as
for IPA Wikipedia is actually a good source since it has examples from dozens of languages and audio samples of
the sounds for every IPA "sign".
One does not have to be a linguist to be accustomed to phonetics, grammar or how languages evolve. Maybe you
have to be a linguist to understand Choamsky's theories, but I've never bothered with that - besides that's beside
the point.
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Kyle Corrie Senior Member United States Joined 4829 days ago 175 posts - 464 votes
| Message 15 of 15 01 June 2012 at 2:41pm | IP Logged |
aldo wrote:
A REAL linguist is what that would be Hampie and not some dilettantish
tyro. And you did linguistics where, again?
The differences between APA and IPA requires a class. As with any profound academic
subject, you can't just glean everything about languages from a free forum on the
internet. |
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Volte wrote:
Stop the personal attacks, please. |
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That's everyone's favorite YouTube psychopath Christophe Clugston. He knows no other
manner of communicating other than to insult -- which is surprising considering he'll
ramble on forever about his linguistic pedigree in spite of the fact that he writes as
if he never finished high school.
You shouldn't even listen to him anyway. "He's not even using a real name! He's not
using a picture! Rawr! Rawr! (Garble) Rawr! Degree! Rawr!"
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