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Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4232 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek
| Message 281 of 812 05 December 2013 at 9:22am | IP Logged |
This is the moment when you actually feel that the semester comes to its end. I had to prepare English extracurricular reading for today long before I actually did it (that is today morning, hehe). Even being a little bit nervous I managed to deal with it very fast: my English lesson today hardly lasted 15 minutes, I think. Thus I was able to go to physical culture and work for the lessons I've missed before.
While I was on bus (in both directions) I felt German calling and tried to satisfy it with music and some bits of Memrise. Chase is king of boring now, but that Danish detective felt just the same in the beginning. Even if Chase wouldn't be good enough I have lots of other books to read.
Yesterday I was downloading German audiobooks. I can use them for LR... well, not all of them. There are one which would be taking hard drive space and torturing me for I have absolutely no idea when I'll be able to read it. You must be wondering what it is? The book is called "Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod". I already know that Dative is a common replacement for Genitive in German, I remember that these 7 lessons didn't even told us about the very existence of Genitive, so it must be a very interesting reading.
But not for me, at least not yet...
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| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4232 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek
| Message 282 of 812 06 December 2013 at 7:27am | IP Logged |
Another lab turned out to be extra weird, but we're normal students
and nothing can't suppress our appetite. So, another discussion with
this classmate which learn German lead us to very, very big question:
cases after the verb sein. She said that Accusative should be
there without a doubt and she was surprised when Duolingo
corrected Ich bin einen Junge to Ich bin ein Junge.
Hence the question: which case should we use after the conjugated
verb sein in sentences like these from above?
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| Valy Newbie France Joined 4346 days ago 39 posts - 47 votes Speaks: French* Studies: English, German, Spanish, Mandarin
| Message 283 of 812 06 December 2013 at 9:01am | IP Logged |
For me, it's always the nominative with the verb sein. I think some other verbs are like that too. It would be
useful to have a list.
Sein : ich bin ein Junge.
Werden ? : ich wurde ein Lehrer.
Bleiben ? : ich bleibe ein Lehrer.
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| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4842 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian
| Message 284 of 812 06 December 2013 at 1:43pm | IP Logged |
Valy wrote:
For me, it's always the nominative with the verb sein. I think some other verbs are like that too. It would be useful to have a list.
Sein: Ich bin ein Junge.
Werden: Ich wurde ein Lehrer.
Bleiben: Ich bleibe ein Lehrer. |
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This is correct. For all these verbs, German uses the nominative.
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| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4232 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek
| Message 285 of 812 06 December 2013 at 1:57pm | IP Logged |
Valy, Josquin, thanks! Guess her German teachers should be checking that stuff before teaching kids wrong things... It was really strange for me to hear that we should use accusative for I have never seen its use there.
Any other verbs demanding nominative? Maybe it's not useful for me so far, but I need to ask for my fellow student - she can't do it herself because she doesn't know English enough to get here...
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 286 of 812 06 December 2013 at 2:01pm | IP Logged |
Which makes sense, since you always use nominative with copula verbs.
Via Diva, verbs don't demand the nominative. These are constructions where, in Russian,
you would use either nominative or instrumental.
Edited by tarvos on 06 December 2013 at 2:02pm
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| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4232 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek
| Message 287 of 812 06 December 2013 at 2:09pm | IP Logged |
tarvos wrote:
Which makes sense, since you always use nominative with copula verbs. |
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Oh, what a fool I am... And I have finished school being in class which paid more attention to humanities comparing to other subjects. What use was that if I can't see copula verbs?!
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 288 of 812 06 December 2013 at 2:21pm | IP Logged |
Well in German it is nominative. in Russian you can use instrumental of course
Я стал грустным, я буду грустным...
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