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atcprunner
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26 November 2014 at 1:04pm | IP Logged 
What is the difference between купаться and плавать?
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26 November 2014 at 2:12pm | IP Logged 
Купаться is listed in my dictionary as "(take a) bath, bathe". It also gives its name to купальня, (swimming) baths.

Whereas плавать (bidirectional) / плыть (monodirectional) are verbs of motion which describe the motion of humans (also boats & ships) in bodies of water.

That's where my limited knowledge ends - I haven't seen the first one in context enough to know exactly where the division lies.

Купанье comes up as "bathing" whereas плавание is "swimming".

Perhaps someone will tell us if we're allowed to плавать in the купальня.


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26 November 2014 at 2:42pm | IP Logged 
Well, you're certainly can купаться in a sea or a river, whereas it's hard to плавать in a bath.
Wikitionary says that one can купаться in order to wash (=bathe), improve the health or just for pleasure. I
also suggest it's used for animate objects only, not limited by human.
The other verb is way more general and works for every type of objects, however, there are situations when it
doesn't sound right (like mentioned above).
Plus плавать not only means to swim but also to float (В воде плавало много опавших листьев = A lot of
leaves floated in the water).
Both verbs also have some other meanings not connected to water in any way :)
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27 November 2014 at 8:02am | IP Logged 
If we're discussing non-bathtub setting, купаться is for fun, плавать is for exercise.

But if you would want to ask "can you swim?" you'd use "плавать", bathing suit is купальник (from купаться).
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27 November 2014 at 6:03pm | IP Logged 
One more related word is барáхтаться, which can mean struggling against the water (ie if you can't swim) or simply fooling around in the water.
I disagree about the fun/exercise thing. There's some correlation but it depends on your idea of fun. If you want to emphasize the chaotic movement, maybe even your low swimming skills, you can say купаться or even барахтаться (more common about children). If you swim more or less properly for fun, you can use плавать too. I couldn't care less about exercising but I enjoy swimming :P

One more collocation with купаться is купальный сезон, ie bathing/swimming season. Here the emphasis is not on fun/exercise but on a very binary idea of having gone swimming in a particular year. You can also use купаться itself in this meaning, as in Ты уже купалась/купался? (this year or also during a specific trip, or even in a specific sea/river)
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18 January 2015 at 9:36pm | IP Logged 
Плавание is the act of swimming, купание is more like a recreational activity which may
include swimming, but also may just mean being in/near water and/or washing/playing.


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