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| soclydeza85 Senior Member United States Joined 3908 days ago 357 posts - 502 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, French | Message 1 of 10 31 March 2015 at 10:12pm | IP Logged |
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I've been learning French for a little while now. I'm confident that my accent is very good, but a lot of times I tend to give my French R's a slight guttural roll (like in German). I assume it's a crossover from becoming so comfortable with doing it in German.
Is this a big no-no for French? I can do the standard French R just fine, it's just that they tend to roll a little and I push a slight bit harder. To be honest, they're kind of fun to do. What would a French/Swiss (one of my main motivations is actually travel in Switzerland) person think of someone doing this? Edited by soclydeza85 on 31 March 2015 at 10:12pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 2 of 10 01 April 2015 at 3:48am | IP Logged |
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This is fine, it's called a uvular trill. It's used in some areas instead of the
approximant and is especially common in Belgium as I recall. I use this pronunciation quite often. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4623 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian | Message 3 of 10 01 April 2015 at 12:44pm | IP Logged |
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I don't know the technical terms, but from what I remember about my school French, the rolled R originated at the back of the throat, whereas the Scots R seems to occur at the front of the mouth.
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that's not guttural ;)
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| soclydeza85 Senior Member United States Joined 3908 days ago 357 posts - 502 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, French | Message 5 of 10 03 April 2015 at 3:09pm | IP Logged |
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Ok cool, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't some sort of language faux pas for French.
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| Gallo1801 Diglot Senior Member Spain Joined 4903 days ago 164 posts - 248 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), Croatian, German, French | Message 6 of 10 27 April 2015 at 7:43pm | IP Logged |
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Can I trill the French R?...
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If you do it with your uvula, yes. Alveolar, only in a play.
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| tangleweeds Groupie United States Joined 3576 days ago 70 posts - 105 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Irish, French | Message 8 of 10 28 April 2015 at 3:42am | IP Logged |
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My French problem that I can't not trill with my uvula, when I try to make a sound in
that area of my throat. I use an uvular trill as part of my call for our cats, mimicking the sound mother cats use to call their kittens (very effective). So I exercise my uvula several times a day, and then I can't figure out how to shut it off when I want to make a different sound down in there. Should I try moving the sound deeper into my throat to kill the trill, or the other way, forward toward my mouth? Or something else? I'm altogether failing to the R sound I'm hearing in Assimil French with Ease. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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