steve s. Newbie United States Joined 6338 days ago 39 posts - 39 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto
| Message 1 of 8 27 August 2007 at 6:50pm | IP Logged |
I have been pleased with Spanishsense.com for learning Spanish...it gives me the ability to download a lesson onto my mp3 player and play it when I want.
Do any of you know of any courses akin to that for Esperanto? I have seen many of the other courses and info on Esperanto, all of it helpful, but am wondering about this particular learning tool.
Does anyone know of any links for something like this?
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Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6474 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 2 of 8 28 August 2007 at 2:23am | IP Logged |
Lernu has some mp3s of lessons available here, but these are not standalone lessons: they either come with a lesson text or they are recordings of stories in easy Esperanto. Anyway they might help.
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steve s. Newbie United States Joined 6338 days ago 39 posts - 39 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto
| Message 3 of 8 28 August 2007 at 8:42am | IP Logged |
Sprachprofi wrote:
Lernu has some mp3s of lessons available here, but these are not standalone lessons: they either come with a lesson text or they are recordings of stories in easy Esperanto. Anyway they might help. |
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Thanks! I did find some stuff in lernu, but very little...a start, as you say.
Anyone else know of any lessons like the type that I've described?
Thanks in advance for any help with this that you might be able to give...
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awake Senior Member United States Joined 6640 days ago 406 posts - 438 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Spanish
| Message 4 of 8 28 August 2007 at 6:14pm | IP Logged |
There is a pimsleuresque course called Jen Nia Mondo that is available
from Audioforum.com and other places. It's reasonably priced. It helped
me with my listening comprehension quite a bit. Though I think you
would get the most out of it if you came to it with some understanding of
Esperanto already.
There are also a few free lessons on the British Esperanto Association's
website.
There's a series of mp3 files for teaching Esperanto pronunciation at
http://www.esperantoeducation.com/proncd.html
and there are some "dialogues" with transcripts available here
http://www.esperantoeducation.com/jtscd.html
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steve s. Newbie United States Joined 6338 days ago 39 posts - 39 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto
| Message 5 of 8 29 August 2007 at 10:27am | IP Logged |
awake wrote:
There is a pimsleuresque course called Jen Nia Mondo that is available
from Audioforum.com and other places. It's reasonably priced. It helped
me with my listening comprehension quite a bit. Though I think you
would get the most out of it if you came to it with some understanding of
Esperanto already.
There are also a few free lessons on the British Esperanto Association's
website.
There's a series of mp3 files for teaching Esperanto pronunciation at
http://www.esperantoeducation.com/proncd.html
and there are some "dialogues" with transcripts available here
http://www.esperantoeducation.com/jtscd.html
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Thanks! I'd heard of the first one before, but thank you for specifics. I'll follow up and check out the others..very appreciated...
I also found Sprachprofi's thread on Esperanto to be very helpful, including the radio links that of course give some good concept of pronunciation...it seems that leaning to an Italian accent is the way to go. I tend to lean to the Spanish accent but can lighten that up the more I learn Esperanto.
I must say that learning Esperanto is a very rapid process...simple rules, memorize vocabulary and you are pretty much good to go!
Thanks again!
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Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6474 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 6 of 8 29 August 2007 at 11:00am | IP Logged |
I'm glad you found my thread useful. Esperanto is one of the rare languages that could be learned entirely on one's own and online, because there are so many good materials available online, not to mention free tutors, and also because it's so easy of course. Actually, the first speakers learned Esperanto from books, without even recordings, and still managed to communicate well during the first congress in 1905.
As for accents: usually Slovakians/Slovenians are said to have the best Esperanto accent, but taking German, Spanish or (better) Italian as a model will get you quite close. As an English speaker, the vowels are probably the hardest for you, so focus on those and make them sound like in German, Spanish or Italian (or any other language with undiluted vowels). The Ĥ ĥ sound might also be a problem for you, but there are very few (and increasingly less) words that use it.
Finally, keep in mind that Esperanto speakers are much more lenient about accent issues than speakers of other languages (probably because there are so few native speakers who would be able to notice a slight accent). Even if your accent is pronounced, people probably wouldn't remark on it. There are quite a few well-known and respected people in Esperantio who have strong accents, especially American or French ones. If you speak Esperanto with an Italian accent, you'll be close enough to the ideal.
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steve s. Newbie United States Joined 6338 days ago 39 posts - 39 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Esperanto
| Message 7 of 8 29 August 2007 at 11:11am | IP Logged |
Sprachprofi wrote:
I'm glad you found my thread useful... |
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Thanks! Great advice!
I would still love the Spanishsense style instruction, but I completely agree that Esperanto can be learned with the tools in your thread, this thread, and throughout the forum.
I don't seem to have a problem with pronunciation, just a matter of which direction to lean, you know? That and I just have to get to memorizing terms...suggestions for those? Flashcards and Quizlet.com are my companions right now...;-)
Thank you for the prompt response!
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cadomniel Groupie Canada senseandsanity.com Joined 7199 days ago 88 posts - 90 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Esperanto, French, Italian
| Message 8 of 8 29 August 2007 at 4:50pm | IP Logged |
I initially learned Esperanto with an online course about 6 years ago but I have forgotten most of it because I started learning national languages. But I just became interested in Esperanto again. I have the Jen Nia Mondo course and its very similar to an Assimil course except with more explicit instructions and explanations of grammar and written exercises. I want to relearn Esperanto and actually speak it fluently so I am going to use this course and see how it goes.
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