JacobTM Groupie United States Joined 5602 days ago 56 posts - 67 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 1 of 6 04 April 2011 at 7:27am | IP Logged |
Hey,
I'm currently living in Bogotá, after having spent some time in México. I like Latin
America but have recently been thinking of trying something different. Portuguese would
be once option, but then I read a bit about Paraguay and learned something I never knew
before.
90% of the population of Parguay speaks Guaraní, making it (I believe) the only country
in the Americas to have maintained an indigenous language in such large proportions. It
would be fascinating to live in a society where almost everyone is bilingual in Spanish
and Guaraní, especially since this seems to be a rare case where white people have
adopted an indigenous language in large parts.
So has anyone learned Guaraní? Any good resources on it, interesting things to share?
Thanks,
Jacob
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TrentBooks Triglot Groupie United States TrentBooks.com Joined 4858 days ago 43 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Guarani Studies: Biblical Hebrew, Japanese
| Message 3 of 6 11 August 2011 at 9:12pm | IP Logged |
I realize this is a few months late, but just in case...
Yes, I lived in Paraguay for two years. I speak both Spanish and Guarani. It's a beautiful language, and is very much NOT a romance language (it is indeed indigenous). I lots of interesting things to share about it, though I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for. As for resources, I bought a fairly large Guarani-Spanish dictionary while I was in Paraguay, but you may not find as much online to help you learn it as with other popular languages. I'd be happy to discuss it with you though.
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BlackHat_RJ Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4855 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 4 of 6 15 August 2011 at 5:44am | IP Logged |
I am friends with a Paraguayan family, and I must say I have always been impressed with
the Guarani language. I have always been on the lookout for a good Guarani learning
website, although so far I haven't been able to find anything satisfactory.
There aren't any books that I know of that have anything to do with learning or
understanding Guarani, but I would be interested in knowing whether TrentBooks knows of
any place I can obtain a copy of his dictionary without actually going to Paraguay.
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TrentBooks Triglot Groupie United States TrentBooks.com Joined 4858 days ago 43 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Guarani Studies: Biblical Hebrew, Japanese
| Message 5 of 6 15 August 2011 at 6:30pm | IP Logged |
BlackHat_RJ wrote:
There aren't any books that I know of that have anything to do with learning or
understanding Guarani, but I would be interested in knowing whether TrentBooks knows of
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I haven't been able to find anything near what I purchased in Paraguay (it's a big dictionary), but there are a few resources on Amazon that might be helpful. The dictionary I purchased was (I believe) called "Avane'e" (or "Indian speak", roughly translated). It was green, and about 600 or 700 pages thick (very big book).
On Amazon I found the following that might not be bad resources:
Language and Culture: http://www.amazon.com/Idioma-Cultura-Guarani-Paraguay-Spanis h/dp/1257075373/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1313425293&sr =1-1
Guarani-English translations (first time I've seen this before): http://www.amazon.com/Guarani-English-English-Guarani-Concis e-Dictionary-Britton/dp/0781810663/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF 8&qid=1313425314&sr=1-1
Vocabulary of Guarani (Spanish): http://www.amazon.com/Vocabulario-lengua-guaran%C3%AD-Spanis h-Restivo/dp/1446514919/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=13134 25314&sr=1-3
The only downside is that these won't help with pronunciation. For the most part, the letters of Guarani are pronounced like in Spanish, with a few exceptions: J, for example, is pronounced as in English, and the letter Y is pronounced deeply in the throat and sort of sounds like the noise you make when something is really disgusting.
Maybe someday I'll do a YouTube video of Guarani pronunciations if it hasn't been done already.
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5134 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 6 of 6 15 August 2011 at 6:55pm | IP Logged |
TrentBooks wrote:
I haven't been able to find anything near what I purchased in Paraguay (it's a big dictionary), but there are a few resources on Amazon that might be helpful. The dictionary I purchased was (I believe) called "Avane'e" (or "Indian speak", roughly translated). It was green, and about 600 or 700 pages thick (very big book).
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On the off chance that they would have it, I took at look at casadellibro.com. It really is slim pickings for printed Guarani material.
Another online bookseller that I often use is bol.it. I found this vocabulary book there. Maybe it's of use.
R.
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