NickJS Senior Member United Kingdom flickr.com/photos/sg Joined 4959 days ago 264 posts - 334 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese
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I started listening to ChinesePod just over a week a go and I was wondering what kind of
experiences people on here have had with it, I really enjoyed the tone lessons and
thought the speakers were extremely fun to listen too unlike my apparent main beginners
book.
However do all the podcasts have the same quality as the "newbie" ones and is it a good
resource to follow in my learning of Mandarin?
As I know the newbie lessons are free, but after that you have to pay, so some first hand
accounts would be nice to hear.
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newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6379 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map
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I only like one podcast, ChineseLearnOnline. It's sequential, there's no banter, the Chinese is spoken by natives, and it's very well thought out. There feels like there is a plan to the podcasts. I don't like ChinesePod's all over the place podcasts or the banter or that there is a lot of Chinese spoken by non-natives like the original host Ken. It's not for me.
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NickJS Senior Member United Kingdom flickr.com/photos/sg Joined 4959 days ago 264 posts - 334 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese
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Thanks for the input Eric, I was actually a little confused by the layout of ChinesePod,
although I just assumed that I had to go through all of the newbie lessons. I think the
main appeal what I have noticed so far is that when I have downloaded the newbie lessons,
I put them on the iPhone and they give me the English, pinyin, and characters on screen,
which is quite handy. Although I'm not sure if any other podcasts do this too.
I will also have to have a look at the website you mentioned, cheers!
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Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6582 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
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I tried ChineseLearnOnline but didn't like it. On the contrary, ChinesePod is my favorite language learning program
ever. The non-sequential layout was much more suited to me, as I could get my learning through any topic that
interested me. Entertaining lessons made my learning much more fun and the cultural info contained in the banter
was pretty useful, too. In order to get Mandarin spoken by non-natives you have to dig up the very earliest shows;
they stopped doing that years ago. ChinesePod took me all the way from beginner to able to engage with native
materials where several other methods had failed to get me anywhere. Simply having a fun dialogue (there are
dialogue-only files to download, so you can skip the banter if you want) at a perfect length for shadowing, as well
as a transcript with line-by-line translation and popup word-for-word dictionary is great.
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newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6379 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map
| Message 5 of 21 04 June 2011 at 11:04am | IP Logged |
They obviously have very different approaches so you should check out both of them for yourself.
By the way, you can only display the pinyin of the new vocabulary with CLO so ChinesePod has an advantage there.
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NickJS Senior Member United Kingdom flickr.com/photos/sg Joined 4959 days ago 264 posts - 334 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese
| Message 6 of 21 04 June 2011 at 6:36pm | IP Logged |
Excellent, I'll have to look further into both of them and decide on one, I do think its
quite good that it took Ari from beginner to being able to engage with native materials
though, so it must be good.
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6011 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 8 of 21 04 June 2011 at 7:12pm | IP Logged |
Ari wrote:
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So you tried lots of stuff before you started ChinesePod, right?
Would it be fair to say that you already had a concious knowledge of many of the rules of grammar, but that you simply weren't comfortable in their use?
If that's the case, ChinesePod didn't take you from complete beginner. This would explain why you were happy enough without a structured progression: it was initially activating knowledge you already had, rather than imparting new knowledge.
That's a completely different proposition.
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