carlonove Senior Member United States Joined 5986 days ago 145 posts - 253 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian
| Message 9 of 27 08 July 2011 at 4:03pm | IP Logged |
Another British-sounding accent is the old upper-crust New England accent, which is thankfully almost non-existent today. William F. Buckley is the archetype for this accent in my mind, but a lot of academics and Ivy Leaguers from his era also had it.
I'm pretty sure that Niles and Frasier imitated this accent specifically to reference that elitism from the 50's and 60's.
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William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6272 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 10 of 27 15 July 2011 at 3:04pm | IP Logged |
It's an example of an accent sometimes referred to as "Mid-Atlantic".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-
Atlantic_English
During the post-WW2 "Red Scare" in the USA, the accent was sometimes attacked as it was
said to be "un-American".
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ChristianVlcek Bilingual Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5851 days ago 131 posts - 141 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Slovak*, Ukrainian, Irish, German, Russian
| Message 11 of 27 17 July 2011 at 12:15pm | IP Logged |
ScottScheule wrote:
AS to why people make the assumption--apparently I've unwittingly developed some kind of
snobbish means of talking, perhaps derived from my singing lessons, which bred a habit of precisely pronouncing
letters, where most people would use more elision and assimilation. |
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Hm when I was growing up (mostly in Canada) my dad always made me pronunciate and enunciate all the letters in
English words quite precisely. I don't skip over vowels, mix stuff together, use glottal stops or any of that. But from
my dad's Irish influence there's a particular rhythm to how I speak. I think mainly owing to these habits, I've
developed a peculiar accent. Canadians/Americans usually call it a soft English/Irish/snobbish accent, and the
English usually call it a posh Irish-American accent. Strange, huh?
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Liface Triglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Lif Joined 5858 days ago 150 posts - 237 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Dutch, French
| Message 12 of 27 17 July 2011 at 7:41pm | IP Logged |
Lianne wrote:
There are areas of Canada, particularly Newfoundland, where some people's accents sound kind of Irish. That's all I can think of. |
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Trailer Park Boys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GGL0qGk5lA
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ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5228 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French
| Message 13 of 27 18 July 2011 at 7:00pm | IP Logged |
ChristianVlcek wrote:
Hm when I was growing up (mostly in Canada) my dad always made me pronunciate and enunciate all the letters in
English words quite precisely. I don't skip over vowels, mix stuff together, use glottal stops or any of that. But from
my dad's Irish influence there's a particular rhythm to how I speak. I think mainly owing to these habits, I've
developed a peculiar accent. Canadians/Americans usually call it a soft English/Irish/snobbish accent, and the
English usually call it a posh Irish-American accent. Strange, huh?
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Yep. What's stranger, I have no cognizance of this supposed accent of mine. I sound perfectly normal to myself, and if no one had told me otherwise, I would've assumed I speak with precisely same accent as my peers.
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tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5453 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 14 of 27 18 July 2011 at 10:22pm | IP Logged |
carlonove wrote:
Another British-sounding accent is the old upper-crust New England accent, which is thankfully almost non-existent today. |
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Is this the kind of English that Charles Winchester III spoke in the MASH TV series?
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gambi Newbie New Zealand Joined 5109 days ago 37 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English Studies: Indonesian, Burmese
| Message 15 of 27 22 July 2011 at 10:57am | IP Logged |
carlonove wrote:
Another British-sounding accent is the old upper-crust New England accent, which is thankfully almost non-existent today. William F. Buckley is the archetype for this accent in my mind, but a lot of academics and Ivy Leaguers from his era also had it.
I'm pretty sure that Niles and Frasier imitated this accent specifically to reference that elitism from the 50's and 60's. |
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Mr Burns from the Simpsons also has this accent, I think.
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carlonove Senior Member United States Joined 5986 days ago 145 posts - 253 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian
| Message 16 of 27 22 July 2011 at 3:31pm | IP Logged |
tractor wrote:
carlonove wrote:
Another British-sounding accent is the old upper-crust New England accent, which is thankfully almost non-existent today. |
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Is this the kind of English that Charles Winchester III spoke in the MASH TV series? |
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Precisely.
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