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| sofiapofia Pentaglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4941 days ago 88 posts - 103 votes  Speaks: Swedish, Hindi, Portuguese, English*, Marathi Studies: German, Danish, Sanskrit, Icelandic | Message 1 of 13 04 August 2011 at 4:40am | IP Logged | |||||
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These are from the SlowGerman Podcast website. What level is this as in CEFR levels?
They are snippets from larger texts. I've added links if you want to see all of it. Das Politische System http://www.slowgerman.com/2008/07/16/031-das-politische-syst em-deutschlands/ Der Regierungschef ist der Bundeskanzler. Er wird vom Bundestag gewählt. Vorher hat ihn der Bundespräsident vorgeschlagen. Der Kanzler – oder wie momentan die Kanzlerin, denn unsere Chefin ist Angela Merkel – schlägt dann die Bundesminister vor. Kanzler und Minister sind dann die Bundesregierung. Manchmal wird die Bundesrepublik Deutschland auch als Kanzlerdemokratie bezeichnet, weil der Kanzler eine sehr starke Stellung hat. Ein Kanzler kann beliebig oft wiedergewählt werden. Helmut Kohl war am längsten deutscher Kanzler: Von 1982 bis 1998, also 16 Jahre lang. Die Kanzlerin verdient angeblich rund 240.000 Euro im Jahr. Zwei wichtige Institutionen muss ich noch erklären – manchmal werden sie von vielen Deutschen verwechselt. Es gibt den Bundestag und den Bundesrat. Der Bundestag ist das Parlament. Er wird direkt vom Volk gewählt. And this: Denglisch http://www.slowgerman.com/2007/07/26/slow-german-011-denglis ch/ Englische Wörter zu benutzen und sie mit der deutschen Sprache zu verbinden, finden viele vor allem junge Deutsche toll. Man nennt das Denglisch. In den vergangenen Jahren hat sich die deutsche Sprache insgesamt sehr verändert. Wenn das Telefon kaputt ist, hat man früher den Kundendienst angerufen. Heute ruft man den Service oder Support an oder gleich die Hotline. Viel lustiger finde ich allerdings, dass es auch Scheinanglizismen gibt. Das sind Begriffe, die zwar Englisch klingen, die aber kein Engländer oder Amerikaner versteht. I pretty much understand it all and was wondering what level these texts are at? Thanks! Edited by sofiapofia on 04 August 2011 at 4:50am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mrpootys Groupie United States Joined 5611 days ago 62 posts - 69 votes Speaks: English* | Message 2 of 13 04 August 2011 at 7:38am | IP Logged | |||||
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ive actually listened to a majority of these podcasts. If i had
to put a level of difficulty on the series then i would say b1+ 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Wompi Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 4956 days ago 56 posts - 64 votes Speaks: German*, Spanish, English Studies: Czech | Message 3 of 13 04 August 2011 at 8:53am | IP Logged | |||||
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From the to snippets I would say the first text is more complicated than the second because it has specific words about politics, but the sentences are relatively short and easy.
The second one is easier because it has more common words and is written in active and first person. I would say the first one is b2-c1 and the second one b1-b2. In German it gets more complicated the more formal someone writes. If you read the newspaper or articles the Germans tend to put every sentence in passive with -ung-forms. Instead of "Wir beuten die Natur aus ..." we write "Die Ausbeutung der Natur ...". And the most difficult German texts are the law texts and "Beamtendeutsch". This is a c2+++ :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| The Stephen Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5052 days ago 65 posts - 77 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Czech, Hungarian | Message 4 of 13 04 August 2011 at 9:34am | IP Logged | |||||
I have no personal experience with formal testing or the official skill levels, but those still seem a bit high. The first one for example has some government terms, but they're pretty common ones, and the whole thing seems to be written in pretty simple present tense (no simple or pluperfect past tense, no Konjunktiv I or II). It does deal a bit with "werden" though, which can be a bit tricky, and a couple of instances of perfect past tense...but like I said, I've never taken a formal, graded test, so take my suggestions with a grain (or eight) of salt. I just don't think ranking them that high leaves much room for the more formal academic writing you mentioned, or Umgangssprache (if they even test that of course). By the way I definitely know what you mean by Beamtendeutsch. In America we call it "legalese", and one needs a substantial college education to make any sense of that malarkey :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Wompi Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 4956 days ago 56 posts - 64 votes Speaks: German*, Spanish, English Studies: Czech | Message 5 of 13 04 August 2011 at 9:56am | IP Logged | |||||
I even don´t know if someone learns this except if you want to be laywer or similar. :) When I was learning Spanish I saw what you have to know in Spanish for a B1-B2 and it wasn´t that complicated, but yes c1 was little to high.
You read the paragraph 4-5 times and still don´t get the slightest understanding of what it means :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| sofiapofia Pentaglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4941 days ago 88 posts - 103 votes Speaks: Swedish, Hindi, Portuguese, English*, Marathi Studies: German, Danish, Sanskrit, Icelandic | Message 6 of 13 04 August 2011 at 10:08am | IP Logged | |||||
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Thanks everyone! Since I understand and can follow most of the podcasts on SlowGerman and have a fair
idea of German grammar (I've worked through a couple of grammar books this summer) could I get on to a B2 level course at university? I was at A1 at the start of summer after a beginners course in German but intensive study has really helped me. I don't want to do the next level course at uni which is to reach high A2/low B1. Should I do the B2 level course or is it still too early? Thanks! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| t123 Diglot Senior Member South Africa https://github.com/t Joined 5611 days ago 139 posts - 226 votes Speaks: English*, Afrikaans | Message 7 of 13 04 August 2011 at 11:35am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'd say B1. The first one is easier because the sentences are so short, but the vocabulary is not beginner vocabulary. The Goethe-Insitut has
some sample papers for each level, so you can read through them and judge for yourself whereabouts your level actually is. Here is the link to the B1 practice tests page: http://www.goethe.de/lrn/prj/pba/bes/gzd/mat/enindex.htm and the direct link: http://www.goethe.de/lrn/prf/pro/ZD_Kandidatenbl_UES05.pdf The 2nd reading section "Der Mensch braucht einen Vorname" seems about the same level as the 2nd text you posted. They also have a test that will tell you what your approximate level is: http://www.goethe.de/cgi-bin/einstufungstest/einstufungstest .pl You just receive a score out of 30, not an actual level but it should give an indication of what you do and don't know. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| sofiapofia Pentaglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4941 days ago 88 posts - 103 votes Speaks: Swedish, Hindi, Portuguese, English*, Marathi Studies: German, Danish, Sanskrit, Icelandic | Message 8 of 13 04 August 2011 at 11:45am | IP Logged | |||||
Im a bit wary of these online tests. I scored a C1 on a German test the other day and I'm pretty sure I'm no where near a C1. Also I did a Dutch level placement test and scored a B1 even though I've never studied it. I'll try your links though. And yes, these texts are probably B1. I had a look at the Goethe Institut B1 exam link. Thanks ! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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