Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6663 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin
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So, during my usual surfing around the Internet, reading about what I stumble upon, I managed so somehow get
me into King James I & IV’s Dæmonologie and it is almost readable lest some words that I cannot understand at all!
The little word ‹far› is making me really, really mad because it does not really seem to be able to look up and was
not used by Shakesbear (and the only early modern English dictionaries there is are all shakesbearian). Here’s an
example paragraph wherein one can find the little bugger:
Phi. Ye have reason forsooth; for as the common Proverbe saith: They that suppe keile with the Devill, have need of
long spoones. But now I praie you goe forwarde in the describing of this arte of Magie.
Epi. Fra they bee come once unto this perfection in evill, in having any knowledge (whether learned or
unlearned) of this black art: they then beginne to be wearie of the raising of their Maister, by conjured circkles;
being both so difficile and perilous, and so commeth plainelie to a contract with him, wherein is speciallie
conteined formes and effectes.
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Improbably Diglot Newbie Norway Joined 4940 days ago 34 posts - 87 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English
| Message 2 of 15 11 August 2011 at 7:43pm | IP Logged |
From dictionary.com:
Fra
[frah] Show IPA
noun Roman Catholic Church .
a title of address for a friar or brother.
Don't quite see how it fits, but that's at least one possible answer. ;P
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5385 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 3 of 15 11 August 2011 at 8:00pm | IP Logged |
from or because?
It would help if we had more than a single instance.
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Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6663 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin
| Message 4 of 15 11 August 2011 at 9:09pm | IP Logged |
Arekkusu wrote:
from or because?
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Dæmonologie is actually full of fra’s all over, and they seem to start a clause every time. My first guess was ‹for›
but I though that used to be spelled fore (as in wherefore) when used that way during that time ‹Fore I cannot come
shall he not give me more time› or something alike…
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amethyst32 Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5653 days ago 118 posts - 198 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, French
| Message 5 of 15 11 August 2011 at 9:27pm | IP Logged |
I think it means "for" also.
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6707 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 6 of 15 11 August 2011 at 10:07pm | IP Logged |
Or a simpler spelling for "frae", which is a Middle English synonym for "from"
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ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5232 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French
| Message 7 of 15 11 August 2011 at 11:35pm | IP Logged |
See http://www.gutenberg.org/files/10625/10625-h/dict1.html, which gives Middle English definitions.
Fra is listed as meaning fro, which means "from." That certainly works for some of the Demonology.
"I know well inough where fra that errour which ye alleage hath proceeded"
"The first is, whereby shal these possessed folks be discerned fra them that ar trubled with a natural Phrensie or Manie."
"But fra this last symptome is excepted such"
And so on.
Edited by ScottScheule on 11 August 2011 at 11:45pm
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Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6663 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin
| Message 8 of 15 12 August 2011 at 12:42am | IP Logged |
Thank you all :D. I just hate when there’s something there that you quite can’t grasp. It never ever exith my minde
until I can finde out what it is and it eludeth ones tryes.
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