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| jumaneh Newbie United States Joined 6490 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes Studies: Persian | Message 9 of 22 18 February 2007 at 2:50am | IP Logged | ||
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| DavidW Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6525 days ago 318 posts - 458 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, French, Italian, Persian, Malay Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Portuguese, German, Urdu | Message 10 of 22 14 December 2007 at 12:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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The DLI produced an 10-volume audiolingual course in Persian: Persian basic course, published in 1966, that takes the student up to a level 3 proficiency (same as their French and Spanish courses):
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/custom/portlets/recordD etails/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue _0=ED185847&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=ED185847 I am drooling over the thought of this course. I don't know where to find it. The book for another course produced by the DLI, which seems much shorter (12 units, 397 pages), published in 1963, seems easier to get hold of. Don't know if it's any use without the audio though. It seems older materials are slowly being digitalised for public access. Don't know if and when this course will be done: Microfiche to Megabytes Help ERIC expand online access to nearly 340,000 documents indexed 1966–1992, now available only on microfiche. Please, if anyone knows how I could get access to this course, I would be very happy indeed. I don't live in the States, so public libraries are out. Has anyone tried 'Contemporary Spoken Persian' from audioforum? Edited by DavidW on 14 December 2007 at 12:43pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 7143 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek | Message 11 of 22 16 December 2007 at 11:33am | IP Logged | ||
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The Persian course sold by Spoken Language Services was in fact originally produced at FSI. Whether or not this was the entire FSI Spoken Persian course I don't know, but the only original FSI copy I've seen had the exact same number of lessons as the book sold by SLS. FSI also produced at least one Persian reader, which was quite useful in that it contained parallel texts in handwriting, typewritten Persian, and transliteration, along with the vocabulary in each style, so as to facilitate reading handwriting.
Note: the SLS Spoken Persian course is definitely not the same as the one now being sold by AudioForum. Edited by daristani on 16 December 2007 at 11:34am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| platynota Newbie United States Joined 5467 days ago 14 posts - 30 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Persian, French, Arabic (Levantine), Portuguese | Message 12 of 22 12 December 2009 at 4:11am | IP Logged | ||
"Contemporary Spoken Persian" from audioforum is a pretty useful item, and probably is more "contemporary" than FSI/Spoken Persian: http://pro.spidergraphics.com/spo/spo_start.taf?_function=li st&catID=33&_UserReference=4B0F2CF3FAF4C1D64B230273 But comparing the two, audioforum's Contemp Persian being 225 + 225 for Vols 1 and 2 probably still has less content than FSI's/SLS' Spoken Persian for 120 for the book and cassettes. I only have the FSI text, but if those cassettes cover most of the text and drills, the package is a reallllll bargain in comparison. I like "Contemp Persian" vol 1, and I've definitely benefited from it, but it's too short with much too little content for the money (not worth it), some of the text and audio are mismatched (or missing) when following along, especially during revision exams, and the recordings are flooded with errors (from shoddy quality, but not unintelligible and myriad of other poor editing details). Vol 2 of Contemp Persian is just a cheap piece of paper (more of a brochure than anything) with a plastic ring binding; that plus the cds for 225 dollars is ridiculous. I've not studied with Vol 2 yet, so I don't know how effective it is, but from the basis of Vol 1, I'm sure the content and audio is not in league with the price. If the FSI/SLS spoken Persian is anything like its ol' FSI Hebrew course, then it's well worth the 120. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| platynota Newbie United States Joined 5467 days ago 14 posts - 30 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Persian, French, Arabic (Levantine), Portuguese | Message 13 of 22 12 December 2009 at 4:24am | IP Logged | ||
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In case you've not seen this, you should download the DLI Persian course. Vol 2-8 audio is available below, plus army advanced phrases (which is downloadable from the first link). You can get the documents for them below, too.
Farsi Vol 2 - Vol 8 - and Army Phrases (audio only): http://www.4shared.com/file/129168455/9f9f5001/farsivol1.htm l http://www.4shared.com/file/129177357/11dd1e4e/farsivol2-4.h tml http://www.4shared.com/file/129183914/ec1d0fa0/farsivol5-6.h tml http://www.4shared.com/file/129191847/9ec82153/farsivol7-8.h tml http://www.eric.ed.gov/ <--- search for "Basic Persian Course" to find the vols 1-8. And the link to other DLI courses: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=16633&PN=0&TPN=1 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Woodpecker Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5810 days ago 351 posts - 590 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Arabic (classical) | Message 14 of 22 12 December 2009 at 7:21pm | IP Logged | ||
I of course can't say for sure, but I would guess this is partially because the US hasn't had diplomatic relations with Iran for over 25 years. As FSI almost exclusively trains diplomats, the lack of relations with the only major country where Persian is spoken probably seriously depleted the resources available for maintenance of a good curriculum. Persian is spoken in several other countries, but until recently, neither were very important to the US. The languages you listed are all linguas franca in African countries that are of strategic importance to the US. For what it's worth, DLI probably has excellent Persian resources for exactly the same reason FSI does not. 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| geirtbr Groupie Norway Joined 6656 days ago 83 posts - 90 votes Speaks: Norwegian* Studies: Russian | Message 15 of 22 17 June 2010 at 10:00am | IP Logged | ||
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Platynota: What is the differences betweeen FSI spoken persian and the defence language institute material
(provided you have looked at them both)? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6228 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 16 of 22 17 June 2010 at 12:50pm | IP Logged | ||
The " FSI / SLS " Persian is more of your traditional FSI style course. A dialog with the words slowly repeated, a few drills at the end of each chapter etc. There are only 12 Chapters in the FSI course and , I believe, only 5 hours or so of audio. The DLI course is much more comprehensive and clearly oriented towards the military. There was no audio produced for the first 8 units, so if you are starting from scratch you are best to have some material under your belt before you tackle DLI. The introduction promises to get you to a spoken " level 3 " ability when used as part of an intensive classroom course. I think one could get pretty close to this, even with self study. The bad news about DLI is that the Farsi is written in microscopic Persian script. I had a really hard time reading it for whatever reason. I agree that Contemporary Spoken Persian is not worth the money. It is essentially "Teach Yourself Persian" with a little more audio and no cute cartoons! IU has some great links here as well http://www.indiana.edu/~celtie/persian.html Edited by liddytime on 17 June 2010 at 12:54pm 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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