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| Whitefish Diglot Groupie Canada Joined 5243 days ago 49 posts - 72 votes  Speaks: English*, French | Message 9 of 25 07 January 2011 at 4:32am | IP Logged | ||
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Wow, I can't believe I didn't get around to posting this yet: thank you so much Li Fei and jimbo! I used by
Christmas money to buy some readers over the break and they came in today. It will provide a nice, steady supplement to my daily reading of 兒童故事 I find on the Internet. Having teammates to point you in the right direction is certainly a huge benefit of TAC. As well, I'm far to busy this week at school (two major projects that I've been slacking off on are due very soon), so no weekly update. Juggling Mandarin and school is already proving to be a challenge; although my immersion environment is much improved, I spend practically all of my waking hours doing homework. I've fallen behind on my Hanzi a little (well, not really, because I was doing 50 Hanzi a day for the last few days of the Christmas break :] ) so that needs to be remedied ASAP. Also, the HSK looms in the future. I am yet undecided on whether or not I will take it. I probably will end up doing it, just because I can't resist a challenge. I've downloaded both the HSK2 vocabulary deck on Anki and looked at the vocabulary here; it's daunting, but it's also exciting. I'm not going to commit myself yet, but I have started to learn the vocabulary list. We'll wait until February to see how comfortable I am. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Li Fei Pro Member United States Joined 5114 days ago 147 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 10 of 25 13 January 2011 at 3:25am | IP Logged | ||
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Hi Whitefish,
I hope school is going well and leaving you some time for language study. Because I'm interested in the HSK, I looked at the site you posted above. It seems somewhat different from the HSK information I've been finding. Take a look here to see another, I think easier- looking description of the HSK. I tried to paste in a chart from that site showing the number of vocab words for each level along with the CEFR level you can reach. According to this chart, if you take the Level 3 HSK, you need to know 600 vocabulary words (not sure how that translates to hanzi, though). They say this equates to B1 level. What do you think? This site is one sent me by the Confucius Institute at George Mason University, so that has to be right, doesn't it? Yet 600 words seems a small vocabulary for B1 level . . . Edited by Li Fei on 13 January 2011 at 3:31am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Whitefish Diglot Groupie Canada Joined 5243 days ago 49 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English*, French | Message 11 of 25 13 January 2011 at 3:55am | IP Logged | ||
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Hey Li Fei. I'd suspect you're right: I just checked here for
details on registration, and the sample tests they gave don't seem very difficult. I still need to call the center this weekend to confirm, but I'm on for writing the HSK II around the same time as you. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6133 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 12 of 25 13 January 2011 at 4:14am | IP Logged | ||
I agree, that does seem far too little for B1 level... I know about 700 in Persian right now, but I'd say I'm still trapped around a high A1. I would have thought that B1 would have been at least 1500 words, probably much higher. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6285 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin | Message 13 of 25 13 January 2011 at 6:12am | IP Logged | ||
It would be stunning if you could maintain a pace of 50 or even 25 a day. You'll get great results over the course of a year if you can learn 10 a day, every day, no matter what. Keep at it! I hope we can all have real success this year. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Whitefish Diglot Groupie Canada Joined 5243 days ago 49 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English*, French | Message 14 of 25 23 January 2011 at 4:17pm | IP Logged | ||
On Hanzi, Immersion Environment and Pleasant Goats
So this log thing isn’t working out. I was excited to begin a log. I thought it would a great way to share my experiences and keep my motivated. Turns out that it’s not that easy. Time is something that I never seem to have enough of. Whenever I do have free time, I’ve had better ways to spend it than writing a log. So this poor little log has been left in the dust and I need to rethink exactly what I want to do with this. Do I just want to post a bare-bones weekly update? Or do I want to post a more substantial biweekly or even monthly log? We will see. Some good news, however: yesterday I officially completed the first half of “Reading Chinese”. I’m now onto the section where stroke order is not given - a little daunting, but exciting none the less. On less exciting news, my Hanzi memorization has been fairly erratic as of after the Christmas break. I was supposed to have completed this task as long as two weeks ago. I know, awful. I had two major projects due the first two weeks of January so I can blame it partially on that, but I’ve also been spending a lot of my free time actually taking part in Mandarin entertainment. That’s right. My efforts at an immersion environment are at that weird place where it’s a lot better than two weeks ago, but not as nice as I would like it to be. I’ve got lots of Mandarin songs, taken out books from the library and started to spend more of my time trying to decipher Mandarin articles on Wikipedia. It can be a tad frustrating, but most of the time it’s really fun! Best of all, listening to songs or watching by favourite TV show: 喜羊羊與灰太狼 (Pleasant Goat and Very Big Wolf)! It’s a little violent, and a little sexist, but mostly it’s pretty cute. Best of all, it’s pretty easy to follow. I’m already on episode 20 after a few days! (It’s a bit of an addiction). My goals for next week: Get 7 pages into the 2nd section of “Reading Chinese”. Start the transition from traditional characters to simplified (I already have the Anki deck set up). Spend more time with Mandarin! This means getting my work done on time and not procrastinating so I can spend more time doing the things I want. Edited by Whitefish on 23 January 2011 at 11:22pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6285 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin | Message 15 of 25 24 January 2011 at 7:21am | IP Logged | ||
More study, less blog. Just keep doing a little something on your Mandarin every day. A short note every now and then when you've achieved one of your milestones seems like a good thing. Success stories can encourage other people who may be stuck on a tough point. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Li Fei Pro Member United States Joined 5114 days ago 147 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map | Message 16 of 25 28 January 2011 at 6:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hey Whitefish,
I like your log and hope you'll keep it up, however sporadically. Jimbo and I want to keep track of your progress. Plus, you are taking a very different approach than I am, and it's useful to me to see how you are learning. Thanks for the link for Pleasant Goat and Very Big Wolf. It does look cute and I can follow enough of it to make it interesting. Now here's a dumb question: how do you go from one episode to the next? Did you link to the first episode? It's frustrating that I can't read well enough to navigate the web page. Any help you can offer would be great. (And so you see, we need you here!) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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