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TAC 2011 - zenmonkey - Team ÇÜ
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troglodyte Diglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5271 days ago 53 posts - 69 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English^C2 Studies: Italian	Message 9 of 33 31 December 2010 at 10:27pm \| IP Logged
	Hello, zenmonkey! Nice to have you at team ÇÜ. Good luck with your studies, and if you need any help with portuguese, just ask me. Ricardo. 1 person has voted this message useful
zenmonkey Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6543 days ago 803 posts - 1119 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English^C2, Spanish, French, German Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew	Message 10 of 33 01 January 2011 at 3:43pm \| IP Logged
	Kuikentje: Gracias! Me gusta ver que estas aqui tambien, le dire a mi hija pero no va saber de que hablo! Aqui la nieve se fue con el nuevo ano y nomas quedan "charcos" de blanco. Ricardo: Thanks, and if I struggle with Portuguese I will let you know. My problem is that Portuguese is too easy to understand passively, so moving it to an active and spoken language takes a different strategy that I have not mastered yet. 1 person has voted this message useful
troglodyte Diglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5271 days ago 53 posts - 69 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English^C2 Studies: Italian	Message 11 of 33 02 January 2011 at 12:15am \| IP Logged
	Well, if you want to, we can schedule a Skype session, to speak Portuguese. Just click on the blue "Call Me" button and add me. 1 person has voted this message useful
zenmonkey Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6543 days ago 803 posts - 1119 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English^C2, Spanish, French, German Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew	Message 12 of 33 04 January 2011 at 10:42pm \| IP Logged
	Obrigado, troglodyte! -- This week so far passive listening to German in the car (about an hour a day) and continued French speaking in the house but no active lesson time so far. Again, after the vacations, I need to practice my 5S's (sort, set, shine, standardize and sustain). I was so not organized during the trip that I forgot that I took German language material with me and bought some more. I've set aside some of the material I am going to use and I'll go back to the first post of this log and write that up, as well as identify the areas I am missing. LADAKHI Been working on the alphabet these last days and flashcards on Flash My Brain (31 cards) GERMAN One lesson in "Practice de l'allemand de A à Z" (I'll call this PdaAZ in future posts). Edited by zenmonkey on 04 January 2011 at 11:09pm 1 person has voted this message useful
meramarina Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5958 days ago 1341 posts - 2303 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Italian, French Personal Language Map	Message 13 of 33 05 January 2011 at 3:14am \| IP Logged
	Hi zenmonkey, just wanted to say it's good to see that you've returned! Always liked your posts and I wish you all the best with your studies this year. Ladhakhi is an interesting choice of language - looking forward to learning about it. 1 person has voted this message useful
zenmonkey Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6543 days ago 803 posts - 1119 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English^C2, Spanish, French, German Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew	Message 14 of 33 05 January 2011 at 8:21am \| IP Logged
	Thanks meramarina! (I now watch your log and enjoyed the posts.) Getting back into the seat of things. LADAKHI Learned 8 of the characters and am now working on the next 8 ཀ་ཁ་ག་ང་ ཅ་ཆ་ཇ་ཉ་ ཏ་ཐ་ད་ན་ པ་ཕ་བ་མ་ GERMAN ASSIMIL Perfectionnement Allemand (APA) Somehow I lost the older ASSIMIL recordings on my ipod and while I need to put those back (last few lessons) I've started this new material last week. APA - first pass started! Lesson 1 - Doing it the ASSIMIL way and my modifications. I'll describe that here as I need to outline it for myself and it might help others. Pass one: Listen to the lesson. Then read the German text and only check the French for unkown words or missed out words. Then listen and read with pauses after a sentence or so. In the pauses, practice the sentence or two blind without reading the text. Then listen again. I'll shadow the lesson (in the car or at home) until I can get it down. (Often optimized files with Audacity). Only read the notes if they are needed for comprehension. I save the notes (a little gift) and the exercises for the second pass. Completed an 1.5h of F2F classes and we had a long discussion about the trip and a book written by an Austrian (7 years in Tibet). Intense discussion in German given the history of the author. Activated my daughter's portable phone by calling the helpdesk and having that conversation also in German - made some basic mistakes but all is well. Really a top day of German. Edited by zenmonkey on 06 January 2011 at 12:30am 1 person has voted this message useful
zenmonkey Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6543 days ago 803 posts - 1119 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English^C2, Spanish, French, German Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew	Message 15 of 33 06 January 2011 at 5:06pm \| IP Logged
	GERMAN 1h20 minutes German on Lesson 2 - R/L, added new words and a few sentences to cards. APA Lesson 2. An hour of walking and shadowing in the snow. Reset my cards as I was so far behind on the German one. Cards 14/14 Also used the Intense DE application which is amusing but not very effective for me yet as I know most of the vocab so far. Posted more on walking, shadowing and trekking on my blog APA Lesson 3 in the evening. FRENCH Very active daily, but I'll only note the additional work. Grammaire Progressive du Français. (GPF) Exercise 1.1 LADAKHI Installed Tibetan keyboard and got Flash My Brain going with new cards. Created 31 cards of which the first 6 have Tibetan text also. Slow, slow going. I think I am in love with the beauty of the writing. Cards: 14/31 Haha, writing this is going to kick me in the butt! Just spent a little while learning to write སྐྱོད་ (not very readable here, but if your browser goes to 200% try it.) skyot (come in, go!) But that first character is a combination of two characters ས and ཀ, then a subscribed ya ཡ which becomes ྱ , and then add the vowel modifier: ོ Not so easy to figure out on the keyboard!! Edited by zenmonkey on 07 January 2011 at 12:23am 1 person has voted this message useful
zenmonkey Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6543 days ago 803 posts - 1119 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English^C2, Spanish, French, German Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew	Message 16 of 33 07 January 2011 at 2:10pm \| IP Logged
	"Wasted" a good moment reading the site and posting. Hmm... GERMAN Intense DE - About 15 minutes. Still not fully convinced. Dinner was in German with friends. FRENCH -- later in day -- Didn't happen, no specific task LADAKHI Added script for about 6 cards. Cards: 18/31 Taught a few phrases to my co-trekker. Edited by zenmonkey on 09 January 2011 at 11:32pm 1 person has voted this message useful

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troglodyte Diglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5271 days ago 53 posts - 69 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English^C2 Studies: Italian	Message 9 of 33 31 December 2010 at 10:27pm \| IP Logged
	Hello, zenmonkey! Nice to have you at team ÇÜ. Good luck with your studies, and if you need any help with portuguese, just ask me. Ricardo. 1 person has voted this message useful
zenmonkey Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6543 days ago 803 posts - 1119 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English^C2, Spanish, French, German Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew	Message 10 of 33 01 January 2011 at 3:43pm \| IP Logged
	Kuikentje: Gracias! Me gusta ver que estas aqui tambien, le dire a mi hija pero no va saber de que hablo! Aqui la nieve se fue con el nuevo ano y nomas quedan "charcos" de blanco. Ricardo: Thanks, and if I struggle with Portuguese I will let you know. My problem is that Portuguese is too easy to understand passively, so moving it to an active and spoken language takes a different strategy that I have not mastered yet. 1 person has voted this message useful
troglodyte Diglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5271 days ago 53 posts - 69 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English^C2 Studies: Italian	Message 11 of 33 02 January 2011 at 12:15am \| IP Logged
	Well, if you want to, we can schedule a Skype session, to speak Portuguese. Just click on the blue "Call Me" button and add me. 1 person has voted this message useful
zenmonkey Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6543 days ago 803 posts - 1119 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English^C2, Spanish, French, German Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew	Message 12 of 33 04 January 2011 at 10:42pm \| IP Logged
	Obrigado, troglodyte! -- This week so far passive listening to German in the car (about an hour a day) and continued French speaking in the house but no active lesson time so far. Again, after the vacations, I need to practice my 5S's (sort, set, shine, standardize and sustain). I was so not organized during the trip that I forgot that I took German language material with me and bought some more. I've set aside some of the material I am going to use and I'll go back to the first post of this log and write that up, as well as identify the areas I am missing. LADAKHI Been working on the alphabet these last days and flashcards on Flash My Brain (31 cards) GERMAN One lesson in "Practice de l'allemand de A à Z" (I'll call this PdaAZ in future posts). Edited by zenmonkey on 04 January 2011 at 11:09pm 1 person has voted this message useful
meramarina Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5958 days ago 1341 posts - 2303 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Italian, French Personal Language Map	Message 13 of 33 05 January 2011 at 3:14am \| IP Logged
	Hi zenmonkey, just wanted to say it's good to see that you've returned! Always liked your posts and I wish you all the best with your studies this year. Ladhakhi is an interesting choice of language - looking forward to learning about it. 1 person has voted this message useful
zenmonkey Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6543 days ago 803 posts - 1119 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English^C2, Spanish, French, German Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew	Message 14 of 33 05 January 2011 at 8:21am \| IP Logged
	Thanks meramarina! (I now watch your log and enjoyed the posts.) Getting back into the seat of things. LADAKHI Learned 8 of the characters and am now working on the next 8 ཀ་ཁ་ག་ང་ ཅ་ཆ་ཇ་ཉ་ ཏ་ཐ་ད་ན་ པ་ཕ་བ་མ་ GERMAN ASSIMIL Perfectionnement Allemand (APA) Somehow I lost the older ASSIMIL recordings on my ipod and while I need to put those back (last few lessons) I've started this new material last week. APA - first pass started! Lesson 1 - Doing it the ASSIMIL way and my modifications. I'll describe that here as I need to outline it for myself and it might help others. Pass one: Listen to the lesson. Then read the German text and only check the French for unkown words or missed out words. Then listen and read with pauses after a sentence or so. In the pauses, practice the sentence or two blind without reading the text. Then listen again. I'll shadow the lesson (in the car or at home) until I can get it down. (Often optimized files with Audacity). Only read the notes if they are needed for comprehension. I save the notes (a little gift) and the exercises for the second pass. Completed an 1.5h of F2F classes and we had a long discussion about the trip and a book written by an Austrian (7 years in Tibet). Intense discussion in German given the history of the author. Activated my daughter's portable phone by calling the helpdesk and having that conversation also in German - made some basic mistakes but all is well. Really a top day of German. Edited by zenmonkey on 06 January 2011 at 12:30am 1 person has voted this message useful
zenmonkey Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6543 days ago 803 posts - 1119 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English^C2, Spanish, French, German Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew	Message 15 of 33 06 January 2011 at 5:06pm \| IP Logged
	GERMAN 1h20 minutes German on Lesson 2 - R/L, added new words and a few sentences to cards. APA Lesson 2. An hour of walking and shadowing in the snow. Reset my cards as I was so far behind on the German one. Cards 14/14 Also used the Intense DE application which is amusing but not very effective for me yet as I know most of the vocab so far. Posted more on walking, shadowing and trekking on my blog APA Lesson 3 in the evening. FRENCH Very active daily, but I'll only note the additional work. Grammaire Progressive du Français. (GPF) Exercise 1.1 LADAKHI Installed Tibetan keyboard and got Flash My Brain going with new cards. Created 31 cards of which the first 6 have Tibetan text also. Slow, slow going. I think I am in love with the beauty of the writing. Cards: 14/31 Haha, writing this is going to kick me in the butt! Just spent a little while learning to write སྐྱོད་ (not very readable here, but if your browser goes to 200% try it.) skyot (come in, go!) But that first character is a combination of two characters ས and ཀ, then a subscribed ya ཡ which becomes ྱ , and then add the vowel modifier: ོ Not so easy to figure out on the keyboard!! Edited by zenmonkey on 07 January 2011 at 12:23am 1 person has voted this message useful
zenmonkey Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6543 days ago 803 posts - 1119 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English^C2, Spanish, French, German Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew	Message 16 of 33 07 January 2011 at 2:10pm \| IP Logged
	"Wasted" a good moment reading the site and posting. Hmm... GERMAN Intense DE - About 15 minutes. Still not fully convinced. Dinner was in German with friends. FRENCH -- later in day -- Didn't happen, no specific task LADAKHI Added script for about 6 cards. Cards: 18/31 Taught a few phrases to my co-trekker. Edited by zenmonkey on 09 January 2011 at 11:32pm 1 person has voted this message useful