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Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German
| Message 1 of 45 10 February 2011 at 2:15am | IP Logged |
I decided to learn french this year. I started few weeks ago, but now, after surfing
through many posts in this forum, I feel I've chosen the material that best suits to my
style of learning:
1 - Assimil
2 - Pimsleur
3 - FSI
4 - Other 'minor' sources like podcasts, movies and so (I almost included Pimsleur
here).
Well, I don't think Pimsleur deserves too much time, so I'm swallowing it swiftly
(three lessons a day). So far, I've completed 12 lessons (4 days) without trouble. I
plan to finish the course (90 lessons) in 30-40 days.
I completed 5 lessons of FSI, but I'll wait a little bit more to face that chall.
I´m going to use Assimil as my prime source of my routine. In 4 lessons (listening,
reading, shadowing...) I already see some progress was made. The very 1st lesson
introduces almost 50 words... ok, I knew most of them.
I did the Paul Noble course (12 hours) and in one month or so I'm going to use also
Michel Thomas (as he is not a native, I'll postpone a little bit). I completed some
time ago 70 lessons of FrenchPod(dot)com, the Newbie Level - I would recommend it for
beginners. DailyFrenchPod(dot)com is very interesting also - I used some, but it is not
for my level, I think.
Edited by Abdalan on 10 February 2011 at 2:26am
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| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German
| Message 2 of 45 10 February 2011 at 7:20pm | IP Logged |
Log Day: 5
Done
1) Pimsleur 13, 14, and 15 (this one, twice).
2) Assimil Lesson 5.
Developing a study routine and tracking the progress is very important. A bit each day
does wonders to the learning process.
Pimsleur is very beneficial to develop oral and aural aspects of the language. I'm
convinced the first step is to get used with the sounds and reproduce them quite
accurately.
My hybrid approach seems to work, although I don't include too much reading in this
initial step of study. I think it's not time to study lots of grammar also.
I'm testing a way of get the translation of words. When I find a word I don't know,
before look for the translation in a dictionary, I search in Google Images and try to
figure out the general meaning of it - several times I have no need to search anywhere
else after that. If the word for instance is "le bout", I get pictures to "Le nom sur
le bout de la langue", "Le bout du monde", "Le bout du tunnel/de ma rue", and even "le
bout du bout". All these uses and the images I see is very helpful to get a (almost)
precise meaning of that word, n'est pas?
Edited by Abdalan on 11 February 2011 at 7:43pm
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| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German
| Message 3 of 45 11 February 2011 at 7:42pm | IP Logged |
Log Day: 6
Well, I'm still keeping away the two biggest deamons of any learning process:
Procrastination and laziness.
Doing the one lesson a day thing:
-- My use of Assimil goes like that
1 - I listen to the audio 15 times (about 25-30 min);
2 - I 'shadow' 10 times without reading (12-15 min)?;
3 - I 'shadow' 5 times while reading the dialogs provided in the textbook (12-15 min)
[Is this the so-called "L-R"?];
4 - I read outloud 5 times the dialogs and exercises (about 10 min);
5 - I read once more silently the dialogs and, afterwards, all the footnotes;
6 - I read the translation;
7 - I listen to the audio one more time and transcribe the dialogs;
8 - I open the book again to check if the transcription is correct.
-- I've done the 3 Pimsleur of the day: 16, 17, 18 (I'm glad my diet now includes
Orangina and water, I couldn't bear just wine and beer anymore).
Edited by Abdalan on 12 February 2011 at 1:01pm
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| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German
| Message 4 of 45 12 February 2011 at 9:39pm | IP Logged |
Log Day: 7
1) Pimsleur I: 19, 20, and 21
2) Assimil 7.
As is well known, each 7th lesson of Assimil we have a brief revision.
- Gender
Nom Masculin: achat, acrylique, anglais, beurre, boulevard (Saint-Michel),
briquet (rouge), café, chapeau, cigare, compte, croissant, dicton, être anglais,
exercice, feu, français, fromage (italien, ordinaire), gant, garçon, gentil, jour,
Legrand, magasin, mari, merci, messieurs, métro (Saint-Michel), monsieur (Legrand),
paquet (de cigarettes), à Paris, parmesan, pont, printemps, prix, tabac, verre [du vin
(blanc)].
Nom Féminin: année, bière, cigarette, conversation (téléphonique), fontaine,
heure, hirondelle, histoire, idée, leçon, [madame], mademoiselle, minute, plaquette,
Seine, table, tartine.
Non Invariant, Invariant en Genre, Invariant en nombre: apès-midi, monsieur,
touriste, à Paris.
- Verb
Verbe: aimer, aller, arriver, attendre, avoir, commander, comprendre, dépêcher,
desirer, désoler, donner, être, excuser, faire, fumer, parler, plaire, pleuvoir,
préférer, voir.
- Adverb
Adverbe: à droite, à gauche, alors, aujourd'hui, aussi, bien (sûr), d'accord,
dans la rue, dehors, est-ce qu' (est-ce que), là (-bas), merci beaucoup, n' (ne), non,
non plus, oui, pas, pour le moment, toujours, très.
- Adjective
Adjectif Féminin: beurreé, brune, faite, première, toute.
Adjectif Masculin: absent, allemand, anglais, bon, bons amis, chaud, cher,
désolé, gentil, hollandais, italien, joli, noir, sûr, tous.
Adjectif Possessif: notre, votre.
Adjectif Invariant, Adjectif Invariant en Genre: autre, drôle, en laine,
ordinaire, raisonnable, romantique, rouge.
Adjectif Indéfini: chaque.
And more:
Conjonction: et, mais; Interjection: ah, bon, bonjour, comment, dommage,
euh, merci, pardon.
And more (about 200 words)!
Voilà
Edited by Abdalan on 12 February 2011 at 9:43pm
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| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German
| Message 5 of 45 13 February 2011 at 5:53pm | IP Logged |
Log Day 8
Today, I kept up my pace:
1) Pimsleur I – Lessons 22, 23, and 24
It seems Pimsleur 1 gets more interesting from lesson 22 on. There is less English and
more questions in French. People frequently complains that Pimsleur always has too
much English disturbing the learning of the target language, but, IMHO, things gets
better from some point on – although I know I won't get very far to high levels of
fluency on its own. Pimsleur is just a tiny part of my learning material. Let's see
the next days.
2) Assimil 1 (review) and 8
3) It's sunday, so I watched to "Les Choristes" (with subtitles).
Edited by Abdalan on 13 February 2011 at 5:54pm
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| mr_chinnery Senior Member England Joined 5748 days ago 202 posts - 297 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 6 of 45 13 February 2011 at 7:13pm | IP Logged |
Abdalan wrote:
Log Day: 6
Well, I'm still keeping away the two biggest deamons of any learning process:
Procrastination and laziness.
Doing the one lesson a day thing:
-- My use of Assimil goes like that
1 - I listen to the audio 15 times (about 25-30 min);
2 - I 'shadow' 10 times without reading (12-15 min)?;
3 - I 'shadow' 5 times while reading the dialogs provided in the textbook (12-15 min)
[Is this the so-called "L-R"?];
4 - I read outloud 5 times the dialogs and exercises (about 10 min);
5 - I read once more silently the dialogs and, afterwards, all the footnotes;
6 - I read the translation;
7 - I listen to the audio one more time and transcribe the dialogs;
8 - I open the book again to check if the transcription is correct.
-- I've done the 3 Pimsleur of the day: 16, 17, 18 (I'm glad my diet now includes
Orangina and water, I couldn't bear just wine and beer anymore).
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You get Orangina in the French course!??
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| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German
| Message 7 of 45 13 February 2011 at 10:20pm | IP Logged |
mr_chinnery wrote:
You get Orangina in the French course!?? |
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Yeah, mr_chinnery, in Pimsleur French Course
Wik:
"The concept of Orangina originated at a trade fair in France and was first marketed in
Algeria by the French Algerian Léon Beton"
orangina(dot)fr:
1936 : Naissance d'Orangina
Lors de la foire de Marseille, Léon Beton s'inspira de l'invention d'un pharmacien
espagnol, le Docteur Trigo. Rajoutant alors de l'eau gazéifiée au mélange, il nomma
cette boisson « Naranjina » (« petite orange » en espagnol), puis « Orangina ».
Edited by Abdalan on 13 February 2011 at 10:22pm
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| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German
| Message 8 of 45 14 February 2011 at 9:57pm | IP Logged |
Log Day: 9
I completed my homework today.
1) Pimsleur I: 25, 26, and 27.
2) Assimil With Ease 9 (and review 2).
"Learning a language is like rolling a snow-ball: the hardest part is to get it
started..." Assimil - French Without Toil
Edited by Abdalan on 14 February 2011 at 9:59pm
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