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| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German | Message 17 of 45 21 February 2011 at 6:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
Salut, Zosia, merci. C'est très gentil de ta part. Je débute et j'ai besoin vraiment de conseils. J'ai commencé il y a environ 1 mois. Petite explication sur le déroulement des choses… J'ai décidé d'apprendre le français cette année. J'ai très envie d'apprendre la langue française et je désire la maîtriser. J'ai commencé à lire les forums et à partir du 10eme jour, j'ai décidé de vaincre ma timidité et ecrire un journal de bord. J'ai aussi débuté le cours de français FSI (5 leçons), mais c'est encore difficile pour moi - alors, j'ai décidé que je devrais commencer par acheter un livre sur la façon "With Ease" après ; un niveau débutant ou qui maîtrisent les notions de base de cette langue afin d'améliorer mes habiletés de conversation (quelques phrases de base qui moi permettront de soutenir une conversation simple). Eh bien, j'ai donc décidé d'écrire mon propre journal jusqu'au 10 février dernier pour raconter mes aventures avec FWE (il ne reste que 85 jours :)) et beaucoup d'autres méthodes. Et au sujet de "invariant au lieu de invariables", tu as peut-être raison, mais j'ai trouvé tout les deux.
Thanx for your kind words. No, my vocabulary isn't that good as I just studied a few lessons of Assimil besides Paul Nobre, Pimsleur 1, some podcasts and 5 units of FSI (I postpone it a while) as my log descibes. About the verbs you've mentioned: No, I don't know how to conjugate them all in all tenses, but I take notes of them as I find a new one in its 'raw' form (infinitive). Log Day 16 Comme d'habitude: 1) Pimsleur 2 - 14, 15, 16. (I listened to two lessons again as there are some new concepts introduced). 2) Assimil FWE - 16 3) Assimil FWT - 8 (about 30 minutes of fun) Sorry my poor English, sorry my poor French. "Qui a peur du grand méchant loup ?" "Vous savez quoi ? Je suis heureux !" Edited by Abdalan on 21 February 2011 at 9:29pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German | Message 18 of 45 23 February 2011 at 8:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Log days: 17, 18.
1) Pimsleur 2 - 17, 18, 19. 2) Assimil FWE - 17 3) Assimil FWT - 9 -=- 1) Pimsleur 2 - 20, 21, 22. 2) Assimil FWE - 18 3) Assimil FWT - 10 "The best methods are therefore those that supply 'comprehensible input' in low anxiety situations, containing messages that students really want to hear. These methods do not force early production in the second language, but allow students to produce when they are 'ready', recognizing that improvement comes from supplying communicative and comprehensible input, and not from forcing and correcting production." Stephen Krashen 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German | Message 19 of 45 24 February 2011 at 10:53pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Log day: 19
1) Assimil FEW – Lesson 19 I have slightly changed the approach lately to suit my needs. In the first lessons I used to listen to the lessons a number of times before seeing the translation (more than 10X). Well, I really see some advantages doing so: you are given time to spot exactly the words you don’t know - even though most of the time the general sense of the whole text is already clear; besides, before running to see it translated, one can guess the meaning while burning in curiosity - the 'crossword puzzle' approach (it seems to be a tool in learning a language); also, in such a blind listening you are not influenced by the written form of you mother tongue in mispronouncing a foreign word. Now, nevertheless, even though I listen first to the audio (about 5X), I feel that is better not lingering too much without reading the written text (and, if it's needed, the translation). In French, most of the times the oral discourse doesn't reveal the words completely to a beginner (as I am). Lots of syllables are hidden, eluded, liaised. Once I see the way it is written I can process more than one byte at a time when I get back to the audio. Changing subject: It is very impressive how the issues in different courses overlap frequently. I can get responses for perplexities of one course in another. It seems to be true with Assimil and Pimsleur - rate: 1 lesson A to 3 lessons P. I feel 'safe' doing such a number of lessons a day as I see the complementariness of the courses. Of course, in the earlier stages of learning a language most of the subjects are the same (in the case of French 'du vin' and 'du café' - ;) I'm kidding) although from different points of view and narratives. 2) Assimil FWT – Lesson 11 3) Pimsleur 2 – 22, 23, and 24 4) Anki (20 minutes) – I’m creating a deck with 2000 French expressions [so far 75 entries (some vocab also), 40/2000 expressions done]. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German | Message 20 of 45 26 February 2011 at 1:31am | IP Logged | |||||
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Log day: 20
1 - Anki - 30 min (85 entries - 50/2000 expressions) 2 - Assimil FWE - 20 (Un peu de révision). I listened to lessons 1-20. 3 - Assimil FWT - 12 4 - Pimsleur 2 - 26, 27, and 28 "Inch by inch anything is a cinch." 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German | Message 21 of 45 26 February 2011 at 8:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
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1) Assimil FWT - Je suis arrivé à la treizième leçon (Une visite pour papa).
This is the first time that one lesson is in both editions. FWT 13 - Une visite pour papa FWE 08 - Une visite - Votre père est-il à la maison ? Bonjour mademoiselle, est-ce que votre père est à la maison ? - Non, Monsieur, il est à son bureau ; mais maman est là, si vous voulez… Non, monsieur ; il est au bureau. Vous voulez parler à ma mère ? - Ne la dérangez pas, je vous prie. À quelle heure votre père rentre-t-il d’ordinaire ? Non, ne la dérangez pas. À quelle heure est-ce qu'il rentre normalement ? - Oh, pas avant sept heures du soir. Oh, pas avant huit heures. - Et où est son bureau ? (...) - Vous voulez l'adresse de son bureau ? - Oui, s'il vous plaît. - Attandez, je la cherche. - Rue de la République, numéro quatre, au deuxième étage ; … - Voilà. Sept rue Marbeuf, dans le huitième. …mais si vous voulez parler à ma mére… - Non, merci ; c’est à votre père que je désire parler ; au revoir ma petite amie. 2) Assimil FWE - Lesson 21 (Révisions et notes) - Verbs of second category whose infinitives end in -re [vendre, prendre (past participle: pris), attendre...]. -- Past participle usually ends in - (vendu, attendu...). This week: more than 200 words (about 100 new words) Last three weeks: more than 550 words, 400 phrases (in audio only). So far 1% of 'passé composé'. Verbe acheter, aller, appeler, apporter, arrêter, attendre, avoir, chercher, coûter, débattre, dépêcher, désoler, dîner, dire, écrire, embrasser, espérer, être, exclamer, faire, fumer, garder, louer, manger, ouvrir, parfaire, penser, plaire, prendre, quitter, soigner, téléphoner, vendre, vener, venir, vouloir. (36) Adverbe assez [bien], au revoir, avec plaisir, beaucoup, bien [sûr], bientôt, d'accord, en ce moment, est-ce que, heureusement, le soir, malheureusement, n' [ne], non, oui, parfaitement, pas, quand, tant pis, tôt, très, trop, y. Nom masculin achat, âge, an, appareil, pierre, argent, avion, bonjour, café, canapé, cuir, diamant, dimanche, dommage, douanier, exercice, fauteuil, lapin, mari, matin, médicament, meuble, modèle, monsieur, piège à rats, sac, samedi, prochain, soir, studio, téléphone, thé, travail voyageur. Nom féminin annonce, douane, grippe, heure, leçon, maison, mère, minute, Paris [huitième], salle d'eau. Adjectif cher, clair, grand, petit, plein, prochain, tout le monde -- calme, grave, jeune, libre Préposition à la sortie de, au sujet de, dans, de, en, pour, vers. And more. 3) Pimsleur 2 - Lessons 29 and 30 (I spent 11 days to get through this level). 4) Anki - 30 min (112 entries - 60/2000 expressions). Est-ce que c'est assez ou pas ? Loin de là ! Quant à moi, je ne suis pas satisfait... tant s'en faut ! Sans blague ? À tout prendre, disons que je me contente de mes études pour le moment. À tout à l'heure ! Edited by Abdalan on 06 March 2011 at 2:07am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German | Message 22 of 45 28 February 2011 at 2:56am | IP Logged | |||||
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Log Day: 22
1) Assimil FWT - 14 (revision et notes) 2) Assimil FWE - leçon 22 - A lesson very intersting, full of new words, expressions, colloquialisms, and longer phrases. The speech is a little faster too. 3) Anki - 30 minutes (122 entries; 70/2000 expressions) 4) Pimsleur 3 - Lessons 1, 2, and 3 (nice voice, man). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German | Message 23 of 45 01 March 2011 at 3:06am | IP Logged | |||||
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Log day 23
1) Assimil FWT - 15 2) Pimsleur 3 - 4, 5, and 6 3) Assimil FWE - 23 4) Anki - 30 minutes (145 entries; 80/2000 expressions) "- Bonjour, dit-il à tout hasard. - Bonjour... bonjour... bonjour... répondit l'écho. - Qui êtes-vous ? (...) - Qui êtes-vous... qui êtes-vous... qui êtes-vous... répondit l'écho. - Soyez mes amis, je suis seul (...) - Je suis seul... je suis seul... je suis seul... répondit l'écho. Quelle drôle de planète !" 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Abdalan Triglot Senior Member Brazil abdalan.wordpress.co Joined 5037 days ago 120 posts - 194 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English Studies: German | Message 24 of 45 02 March 2011 at 2:16am | IP Logged | |||||
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Log Day: 24
1) Assimil FWT - 16 (still transcribing each lesson - as long as I conclude some more lessons I'll compare with FWE). 2) Anki - 30 minutes (I didn't add any card today - well, it seems to work. I'm going to continue using). 3) Pimsleur 3 - 7, 8, and 9 (It seems the lessons are easier than level 2). 4) Assimil FWE - 24 (Third lesson about games and gambling in France). In few days I'll start with FSI and I hope get through in 75 days (each lesson in 3 days - all plans were already made). I bought all three volumes of Phonétique Progressive du Francais - CLE. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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