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MichaelM204351
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Speaks: English*, Biblical Hebrew
Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish

 
 Message 1 of 8
17 April 2011 at 3:44am | IP Logged 
Well... here goes.

I've been considering starting a log for quite a while and now I've decided to devote
my 100th post to starting my own log.

This log will follow my progress in Spanish and Modern Hebrew.



Spanish:

I have taken one semester of college level Spanish and I have played around with it
here and there since then. My goal is to go from an A1 to a C1 in the course of a year
and a half. I will be using Assimil's Spanish with ease as my main course. I will use
it according to its instructions. I will do one lesson per day (starting on the day it
arrives in the mail). In addition to Assimil, I will use some FSI for practice on
topics that I'm having difficulty with once I hit the active phase of Assimil. I will
also use Living Language Ultimate for some extra listening practice. When done with
Spanish with ease, I may do Using Spanish in addition to reading and watching native
material.
I also live in Texas, so I have plenty of native Spanish speakers to practice with at
my school.

Hebrew:

I have been studying Hebrew on and off since I was 11 (I'm now 22) and I am currently
at an intermediate level.

I wish to be at a C1 level within two years. I plan to do this by using FSI Basic
Hebrew course and the materials produced by Ulpan Or. I will attempt to complete one
lesson of FSI per two weeks and go through at least one lesson of Ulpan Or per week.
I have several Israeli friends that I can talk to for extra practice.

I would love to have any feedback, advice, thoughts, and suggestions.

Be well,
Michael M

Edited by MichaelM204351 on 18 April 2011 at 2:28am

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Meelämmchen
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Studies: Modern Hebrew

 
 Message 2 of 8
17 April 2011 at 2:56pm | IP Logged 
It's seems like it's going to be a nice log. Especially, I am curious how you will handle the lessons from the FSI course in Hebrew. It's good that you rely on another ressource as well. Good luck with your goals, although your Spanish goal sounds quite ambitious, I would say. And any plans for German (because it's on your list)?

.נ"ב: גם אני כבר שמעתי את עידן רייכל והוא לא רע

(I'm sure this has one or two mistakes.)
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MichaelM204351
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Speaks: English*, Biblical Hebrew
Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish

 
 Message 3 of 8
17 April 2011 at 3:50pm | IP Logged 
Yeah, I've been using FSI's course here and there for a few years now. It really is a
great course if only you can stick to it. The resources from ulpan Or (www.ulpanor.com)
are absolutely amazing. They're the best that I've seen so far for self study.

My Spanish ambitions are definitely ambitious, but I think it's doable. I've heard of
many people becoming proficient in Spanish in under a year. The fact that I have the
materials to do it and I live in an area in which Spanish can easily be heard every
daily, I think (with a little discipline) I can do it.

I took 2 years of college level German. Originally, I planned to major in it. I do
plan to bring my German up to a C1 or C2 level. It's next on my list. Hopefully, I
can at least keep up with what I already know until I get to that point...

I would have said it the same way, but without the כבר... :o)

I wish I could have joined your TAC team for modern Hebrew, but I was away from the
forum for a while (from November to around mid March)... :o(
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Meelämmchen
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 Message 4 of 8
17 April 2011 at 4:22pm | IP Logged 
Yes, I had a short look on this Ulpan site. It's looking great and I am sure they are doing very good work.

MichaelM204351 wrote:
I would have said it the same way, but without the כבר... :o)

I wish I could have joined your TAC team for modern Hebrew, but I was away from the
forum for a while (from November to around mid March)... :o(


Ah, without כבר. I translated from German into Hebrew ; ) And it's this schon/already thing, which obviously still confuses me. I think you really don't need an "already" here in English, but I'm not sure about Hebrew. By the way, I saw some differences between English and German taught Hebrew. For example comma signs: my English ressource (or maybe both my English ones) says, you count things like this: X, Y, we-Z. And the German one says: X, Y we-Z. So I asked an Israeli, who supported the German version. What have you learnt? These differences are interesting, and I think there were minor differences, but at the moment I don't remember them.

For TAC Team: Maybe some nice moderator can turn a blind eye on this late arrival?! Also, there is a new thread updating the TAC team status.
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MichaelM204351
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Speaks: English*, Biblical Hebrew
Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish

 
 Message 5 of 8
17 April 2011 at 4:53pm | IP Logged 
I can totally see how 'schon' could cause some confusions. That's interesting...

As far as the commas go, believe or not, English is actually moving towards X, Y we-Z
structure. They're beginning to change the textbooks around here...

Maybe I'll ask on that thread...

Edited by MichaelM204351 on 17 April 2011 at 4:54pm

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Meelämmchen
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 Message 6 of 8
18 April 2011 at 9:42am | IP Logged 
These commas... but welcome on Team ש now!
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MichaelM204351
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Senior Member
United States
Joined 5435 days ago

151 posts - 173 votes 
Speaks: English*, Biblical Hebrew
Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish

 
 Message 7 of 8
20 April 2011 at 2:59am | IP Logged 
Okay! Finals are over and now it's time to settle into some good old fashioned language learning! My Spanish with ease came in the mail today, so I now have all my materials for Spanish. It looks good and I can't wait to get further along in the program. The first few lessons are almost demeaning by how simple they are. I would just do a few per day for a while, but I'm afraid of burning myself out. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I'm trying to decide how I'm going to use my Hebrew books... They are set up similarly to Assimil (bi-lingual dialogs with all Hebrew audio), but the dialogs are a little bit longer. The method that they have set up is like this:

1.) Study the vocabulary list.
2.) Read and listen to the dialog.
3.) Once you have it down, translate the English into Hebrew.
4.) Move on to the next dialog.

I am considering, however, using them in the same way as the Assimil method, instead. I would move through it a lot quicker. When done, I would go through it again with an "active phase", translating the English into Hebrew. What do you all think?

Todays log:

Spanish:

Lesson 1 of Assimil

Hebrew:

Dialog 1 of Ulpan Or
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MichaelM204351
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Senior Member
United States
Joined 5435 days ago

151 posts - 173 votes 
Speaks: English*, Biblical Hebrew
Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish

 
 Message 8 of 8
22 April 2011 at 12:15am | IP Logged 
Okay, so I decided not to do more than one lesson of Assimil per day. "Slow and steady wins the race." I have, however, decided to beging working on Michel Thomas's foundational course. I started it last night...

Spanish:

Lesson 2 of Assimil

Hebrew:

Worked on dialog 1




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