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| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5418 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 9 of 19 21 May 2011 at 1:23am | IP Logged | ||
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There's always Quentin Torrentino if you want to sample things... ;)
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| TerryW Senior Member United States Joined 6357 days ago 370 posts - 783 votes Speaks: English* | Message 10 of 19 21 May 2011 at 1:37am | IP Logged | ||
Thinking of you in your time of loss. May your strength prevail to help you through this difficult time. MT courses will always live on in our hearts; may your memories be your comfort. Edited by TerryW on 21 May 2011 at 1:49am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Welltravelled Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5862 days ago 46 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English*, French | Message 11 of 19 21 May 2011 at 11:52am | IP Logged | ||
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I agree cainntear, it seems a really strange idea to package bits of courses with other
courses. I recently worked through the German foundation and advanced, which were excellent and I cannot even begin to think why they would break these up. Also I remember that we were recently talking about whether people can really start speaking a language after two days study and were saying that companies always appear to claim a bit too much from their products but what the Michel Thomas Perfect and Michel Thomas Masterclass courses claim now seems to go way further than anything I've ever read before. Their site says that "The new Michel Thomas Method range guides you every step of the way from absolute beginner to total fluency." I haven't done the vocabulary builders or the language builder. Do they really cover so much? I didn't bother with them because the reviews were not so good. How much of an exaggeration is the "total fluency" claim? Also I am just now looking at the levels they give for each course - after total they say you'll be intermediate, after perfect you'll be advanced and after masterclass you will be an expert. What does it even mean to be an expert in French if you can do it so quickly? On the other hand if what they are saying is true then yippeeee! But then again if someone took the Total French with Michel Thomas and then followed it with the Perfect French with Michel Thomas, wouldn't the vocabulary builder get in the way of the course? In the original courses one things just flowed into another. But now I bet the courses must have become really pretty confusing. I think you're right. They may have ruined the Michel Thomas courses. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7121 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 12 of 19 22 May 2011 at 3:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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These new Paul Noble courses might also have something to do with falling sales. I just discovered a blog that highlights some interesting points:
http://www.learnetarium.com/2010/11/paul-noble-and-plagiaris ation.html 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| megazver Triglot Newbie Lithuania Joined 5994 days ago 34 posts - 52 votes Speaks: Lithuanian, Russian*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Polish | Message 13 of 19 22 May 2011 at 7:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ironically, Noble is about to release his Mandarin course:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2011/may/18/speak-mandar in-in-two-days I wonder how close it will be to H. Goodman's MT course. Edited by megazver on 22 May 2011 at 7:53pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7121 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 14 of 19 23 May 2011 at 12:54am | IP Logged | ||
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Well, on his blog, Goodman makes a reference to it, in the comments section, and says he won't be a bit surprised if it's very similar.
It appears there is some skulduggery going on on Amazon with regard to reviews of Paul Noble courses. He's getting negative ones removed. I'm no fan of MT myself, but I don't think he should be ripped off like this, so smugly and blatantly. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| exscribere Diglot Senior Member IndiaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5279 days ago 104 posts - 126 votes Speaks: English*, Danish Studies: Mandarin, French, Korean, Hindi | Message 15 of 19 23 May 2011 at 4:17am | IP Logged | ||
Sadly, the Paul Noble stuff isn't the only one that has "had this problem" - Laurell K Hamilton was having negative reviews removed until large numbers of people started posting, and complaining to Amazon about it directly about the fact that the books were being marketed misleadingly and no justification for the removals was being given. Something similar might help. I'm curious about trying one of th Paul Noble courses and then posting my own review. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Welltravelled Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5862 days ago 46 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English*, French | Message 16 of 19 23 May 2011 at 12:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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Noble's courses are good, I've had a go at a couple.
I would also be interested to see what the Chinese one is like, one day when I get around to Chinese. I don't see any release date for it yet though. Just out of interest, has anyone here got access to any of the new MT courses? I would be interested to know what the software that goes with it is like. Is it just for the vocabulary builder or for the courses as a whole? The reviews on amazon seem to be by people who haven't done the new version of the course. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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