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Lianne Senior Member Canada thetoweringpile.blog Joined 5115 days ago 284 posts - 410 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Toki Pona, German, French
| Message 9 of 11 24 May 2011 at 9:47pm | IP Logged |
Arekkusu wrote:
Lianne wrote:
The people in St. Boniface that are my relatives are all born and raised in St. Boniface, and they're bilingual, but prefer French. My younger cousins in particular speak French better than English, because they go to French schools. |
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Are you really sure? My kids go to French schools too and apart from the kids who were born abroad, ALL their friends speak better English. It seems most of the kids use English with eachother in the school anyway. And I can assure you that the French taught in the schools would never be an acceptable level in Québec. The reality is just completely different. |
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I'm pretty sure. One of my cousins, Melanie, is 14 and goes to French school. As far as I know she uses French with her friends at school (though I'd have to check with her to be sure). Her mom teases her that her English isn't that good, so that's mostly what makes me think that she's better at French.
And what exactly do you mean, the French taught in the schools would never be an "acceptable level" in Quebec? She's not taking French classes in an English school, she's in a French school. Do you just mean that the accent is different from Quebec?
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5381 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 10 of 11 24 May 2011 at 10:07pm | IP Logged |
Lianne wrote:
Arekkusu wrote:
Lianne wrote:
The people in St. Boniface that are my relatives are all born and raised in St. Boniface, and they're bilingual, but prefer French. My younger cousins in particular speak French better than English, because they go to French schools. |
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Are you really sure? My kids go to French schools too and apart from the kids who were born abroad, ALL their friends speak better English. It seems most of the kids use English with eachother in the school anyway. And I can assure you that the French taught in the schools would never be an acceptable level in Québec. The reality is just completely different. |
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I'm pretty sure. One of my cousins, Melanie, is 14 and goes to French school. As far as I know she uses French with her friends at school (though I'd have to check with her to be sure). Her mom teases her that her English isn't that good, so that's mostly what makes me think that she's better at French.
And what exactly do you mean, the French taught in the schools would never be an "acceptable level" in Quebec? She's not taking French classes in an English school, she's in a French school. Do you just mean that the accent is different from Quebec? |
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While I cannot claim that this is true of all teachers working in French schools (not immersion) in Manitoba, most of the ones I met speak better English than French, as their French is heavily influenced by English, be it in terms of grammar (such as wrong use of prepositions, for instance), vocabulary, sentence structure, etc. It's common to read English sentences written word-for-word with French words even in school work, memos or newsletters. From a Québec point of view, where school is considered to be a role-model in the quality of the language the students are exposed to, this is often amateurish.
In Québec, teachers need to pass language exams before they are allowed to teach. The level of most teachers here would be insufficient by those standards.
However, I don't mean this to be a blame; the main goal of the French schools in Manitoba is to get the kids to use the language and to keep it alive. Quality is not a priority.
Edited by Arekkusu on 24 May 2011 at 10:12pm
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| Lianne Senior Member Canada thetoweringpile.blog Joined 5115 days ago 284 posts - 410 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Toki Pona, German, French
| Message 11 of 11 24 May 2011 at 10:11pm | IP Logged |
Wow, that's news to me. I find it pretty disturbing that teachers wouldn't need a language exam before they can teach in that language. It's great that they're keeping the language in use, but I think quality should be a priority. Well, thanks for the education on that topic!
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