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| aquablue Senior Member United States Joined 6383 days ago 150 posts - 172 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 1 of 55 23 July 2011 at 8:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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Spain is a mature economy and a rather small country. Central American are mostly poor
countries that don't have much going for them. Argentina is a poorer Spain. Given that the immigrants in the US will most likely assimilate into English over time, does the status of Spanish really rely on Mexico, the only real potential Spanish speaking mega country that is currently in a crime war? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 2 of 55 23 July 2011 at 8:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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In a word, no.
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| espejismo Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5052 days ago 498 posts - 905 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Greek, Azerbaijani | Message 3 of 55 23 July 2011 at 10:00pm | IP Logged | ||
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If so, it doesn't have too bright of a future. I've just been to state or two in Mexico, and everything is falling apart compared to 6-15 years ago. The capital isn't bad though. Edited by espejismo on 23 July 2011 at 10:01pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| aquablue Senior Member United States Joined 6383 days ago 150 posts - 172 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 4 of 55 23 July 2011 at 10:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well, given the fact that English will remain the major business language the US, what
is the point in learning Spanish (unless working with the hispanic community in the US) if it isn't to do business with developing countries such as Mexico, Argentina, Colombia, etc or the sole developed country, Spain, which has a weak economy at this time? It seems that Mexico is the only country that has the population and the economy to be a dominant player. Otherwise, wouldn't it be best to learn the language of Brazil, a nation that could be a major superpower? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| espejismo Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5052 days ago 498 posts - 905 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Greek, Azerbaijani | Message 5 of 55 23 July 2011 at 10:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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The Hispanic community is the largest minority in the US. I wouldn't brush it off so easily.
If you live in a major metropolitan area in the US, chances are Spanish will give you an edge in applying for quite a few jobs in quite a few fields. In some parts of some cities you kind of need to know Spanish. I definitely do, though it was only one of the reasons I chose to study Spanish. Loving the language and the many cultures of which it is a part was a much bigger factor for me. Brazil may become a superpower, but it may not. Collectively, the Spanish-speaking countries are more important than Brazil at the moment. If Brazil, "o país do futuro," will become a country of the present, then having a strong base in Spanish will make learning Portuguese a lot easier for you. I saw some very good materials targeted at Spanish-speaking students of Brazilian Portuguese. This is kind of like the advantage the Germans have in studying Turkish, except that Spanish and Portuguese are so much more linguistically related. Edited by espejismo on 23 July 2011 at 10:44pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 6 of 55 23 July 2011 at 10:47pm | IP Logged | ||
Surely you must realize that Spanish is spoken by millions outside the US and Mexico as their native language. That's not going to change, just because the US would want or not want to do business with them. Your view is very US-centric, and not really taking into consideration the rest of the Spanish-speaking world. Mexico is one country of many. R. == 6 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| aquablue Senior Member United States Joined 6383 days ago 150 posts - 172 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 7 of 55 23 July 2011 at 11:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, but those countries are and will never be economic power houses, often are poor
and crime ridden, and they are not countries in which I would desire to live for long periods of time (Equador, Peru, Colombia, Venezuela, Hondouras, etc (Chile is an exception)). Mexico is the only country that could become a Spanish speaking powerhouse but it is in a major drug war which turns me off Spanish. I don't doubt that English will continue to infiltrate the Hispanic community in the US as time passes, making it less useful for business purposes. If you happen to be in a field that deals with Hispanics then great, but what if you are not? Spanish is relying on its breath, but the economy of Japan is greater than the economy of all Spanish speaking nations at this time. Why is Spanish more valuable that Japanese, or German for that matter? Both countries are far richer and nicer places to live in terms of quality of life compared to any Latin American country. As for tourism, I have little interest in most of the Spanish speaking countries in SA or Central America besides Costa Rica and the city of Beunos Aires. I prefer Italy over Spain in Europe. So other than business opportunities in the USA, I can't make up my mind to learn Spanish at this time over Portuguese, German or Russian unless Mexico becomes are more stable country to visit and work in. Edited by aquablue on 23 July 2011 at 11:08pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| espejismo Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5052 days ago 498 posts - 905 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Greek, Azerbaijani | Message 8 of 55 23 July 2011 at 11:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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If Spanish doesn't satisfy your personal preferences then it's best if you stick to other languages. I wouldn't suggest Russian though. Definitely not the best business environment, and corruption levels are through the roof.
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