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| petteri Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4936 days ago 117 posts - 208 votes  Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: German, Spanish | Message 17 of 20 23 July 2011 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
It is still bit different in Scandinavia. Swedish and Norwegian Bokmål have to my ears almost the same pronunciation and vocabulary. To me they sound like a on a one and same language. Still Bokmål is written differently from Swedish. In written form Norwegian looks very much like Danish. But pronunciation is very different even though in written form the two languages look very much alike. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Matheus Senior Member Brazil Joined 5085 days ago 208 posts - 312 votes Speaks: Portuguese* Studies: English, French | Message 18 of 20 23 July 2011 at 8:18pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I'm a Portuguese speaker, and I can understand pretty much everything in Spanish, but the Spoken language I understand better depending on the speaker's country, for example, Peruvian accent is very clear, but if I listen to Spoken Spanish from Spain, is much harder to understand.
I think we (Portuguese speakers) could read a book and understand the context, even without study, because sometimes I read online news in Spanish. Spoken Italian is a challenge, I understand almost nothing, and about the Written, just some words, and with luck, sometimes the context. Spanish speakers don't understand Spoken Portuguese, unless they have studied. Personal experience. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6015 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 19 of 20 23 July 2011 at 9:09pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Written Swedish has nothing to do with Bokmål. Bokmål was derived from Danish because Norwegians used to write in Danish. They modified the existing written norm to better reflect the contemporary spoken norm. Imposing Swedish orthography would have been much harder, as very few Norwegians would have been able to write it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Phantom Kat Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5067 days ago 160 posts - 253 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Finnish | Message 20 of 20 24 July 2011 at 12:16am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I agree wholeheartedly about Spanish speakers not understanding spoken Portuguese. At the most I pick up a few words; the pronunciation is just so different. I can, however, pick up more Italian since the pronunciation between Spanish and Italian are much more similar than Portuguese and Italian. In my case, I can understand a lot of written Portuguese, just as you can understand most written Spanish. - Kat Edited by Phantom Kat on 24 July 2011 at 12:16am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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