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| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 49 of 194 19 February 2010 at 12:04am | IP Logged |
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So, I've been slacking a bit on Pimsleur Russian the past couple of days, so after I finish typing this entry I'm going to review a lesson. My Russian plan is just to get through Pimsleur right now. Argh---it is immensely boring so I try to multitask whilst listening to lessons.
I've noticed that my Hebrew vocabulary is shrinking a bit. I need to add something to my learning plan and I'm not sure what. Reading still slightly fatigues me, but I honestly believe it is the best way to broaden one's vocabulary. I could always do a review of the vis ed cards I memorized a couple of months ago. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 50 of 194 21 February 2010 at 7:41am | IP Logged |
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So I went and bought a couple pieces of poster board with plans of making a "calendar to advanced fluency" for Hebrew. I'm trying to figure out how much time it would take a person to get from basic fluency (just barely in my case :)) to advanced fluency. I'm thinking anywhere from 150-1000 hours is about right, yet the high number in that range is quite daunting.
I don't want to overwhelm myself with too lofty of a goal, yet I'd like to push myself a bit and stay accountable time-wise. 300 hours seems like a good round number to begin with... 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 51 of 194 21 February 2010 at 8:57pm | IP Logged |
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I'm also trying to figure out how to approach Biblical/Rabbinic/Prayerbook Hebrew...I mentioned that I will begin in earnest in March. I've previously completed a Hebrew textbook some time ago and I use a Hebrew-only prayerbook just about every day (supposed to use it three times per day but that's neither here nor there)
I have that "First Hebrew Reader" somewhere in one of my moving boxes, so that's a start. Also, I may pick up some of those pre-made flash cards for vocab. I'm trying to come up with some other resources for intermediate students. I guess I'll go browse amazon now. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 52 of 194 01 March 2010 at 12:27am | IP Logged |
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I still have not begun tracking my hours of study, but I've been speaking Hebrew and listening to the language several hours each day. Starting tomorrow, I will keep track of the hours.
Tomorrow is also the date I set to get serious about Biblical Hebrew. I figure that I need a month/month and a half to get to basic fluency (for my purposes.) The first step is to pick up where I left off with the "First Hebrew Reader" I'm still slogging through Pimsleur Russian II. I was browsing Netflix today with excitement...I'm going to allow myself to start renting films in Russian as soon as I finish Pimsleur and Michel Thomas. I love film and although Israel has made a few excellent movies, they are simply not in the same league as Russia. edit: Great news! I'm inheriting a perfectly good computer from a friend who has decided to replace his. This means I'll be able to download anki again and start anew with SRSing sentences! Edited by nogoodnik on 01 March 2010 at 12:30am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 53 of 194 05 March 2010 at 7:32pm | IP Logged |
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Last night I watched "Late Marriage," an Israeli film in the Hebrew and Georgian languages. It is one of maybe 10 Israeli films that I would actually recommend to the general public. I saw it when it first came out, but at that time I had to view it with subtitles.
I'm getting burned out on Israeli movies. They served their purpose as semi-enjoyable input, but I'm desprate to move onto literature. I'm still in the throws of Russian Pimsleur. I try to spend about an hour a day on the lessons, and I often have to repeat each lesson twice. I watched "Moscow does not Believe in Tears" a couple of days ago, and I understood almost nothing (as expected.) This month is all about finishing Russian Pimsleur and Michel Thomas and moving on to watching Russian films, putting in a bunch of hours with Biblical Hebrew, and getting more comfortable reading Modern Hebrew literature. Another thing I want to do is start up again with an SRS for Hebrew, because it worked remarkably for me previously. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Mieke Tetraglot Newbie Belgium Joined 5438 days ago 21 posts - 29 votes Speaks: Dutch*, French, English, Russian Studies: German, Spanish | Message 54 of 194 06 March 2010 at 9:57am | IP Logged |
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There is a great channel on youtube with heaps of great Russian movies with English subtitles. Just search for Birubir's channel.
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| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 55 of 194 08 March 2010 at 7:58pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks for the advice, Mieke, I'll subscribe to Birubir's channel.
I'm listening to "Bambi" in Russian right now whilst writing this. This weekend I began a review of "Michel Thomas' Russian for Beginners" course. I will complete this review today. I may also do a Pimsleur if I have time. I really want to move to Los Angeles because one can buy a subscription to Israeli television and you get all of the shows and news. They don't offer this subscription service where I live right now, so I'm sad. I'm pretty sure that this belongs in the "You know you're a language nerd when..." thread, but whatever.. I had a conversation with an Israeli friend last night about Hebrew. I asked him if he ever comes across a word he doesn't know how to pronounce because there are no vowels. He said no. He said that the Hebrew writing system is actually quite efficient and natural. I said, Halevai! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| nogoodnik Senior Member United States Joined 5560 days ago 372 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Russian, French | Message 56 of 194 10 March 2010 at 7:02pm | IP Logged |
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I finished the Michel Thomas Beginning Course and have resumed Pimsleur. After I get fed-up with Pimsleur again I'll do the Michel Thomas Advanced Course.
All is well, except that when I find myself reaching for words while speaking Hebrew, I have to stop myself from saying the word in Russian. I think this is because I've been spending more time with Russian this week and my brain is still working on developing a separate folder for that language. For Modern Hebrew the next steps are to work on my writing and to delve into literature. I also need to improve my composition skills. I've never gotten this far with a language before, so this is unknown and mildly anxiety-causing territory. To think that if I just continue at this pace I will reach advanced fluency at the end of this year though is incredibly motivating. Despite the claim that I will get serious about Biblical Hebrew this month, I've done nothing besides maintaining what I already know. This has been more due to poor planning rather than lack of motivation so I'm sure I can squeeze in some study hours eventually. Another thing I need to think about is how to construct my semi-immersion environment for Russian. edit: just found this very useful website listing the 1000 most common Russian words with pronunciation guide. Edited by nogoodnik on 10 March 2010 at 7:51pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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