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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6694 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes  Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 25 of 52 11 December 2010 at 5:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
Maybe you should try, JustBerta. As Hakan D has tried to explain this is one of the ways you can shape your personal log, and when he even gives a translation when writing in Greek you have no reason to complain. Most of this forum is in English for your comfort. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6133 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 26 of 52 11 December 2010 at 6:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hakan D, your Greek is quite good! There were certainly many mistakes that I saw, but it was almost entirely understandable (except for a sentence where you wrote είδα instead of είπα; that was a bit confusing). Καλή τύχη με τις μελετίες σου. Θα είναι ενδιαφέρον να δω τί συμβαίνει εδώ σε 200 ώρες. Edited by ellasevia on 12 December 2010 at 8:35am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hakan D Tetraglot Groupie Turkey Joined 5092 days ago 45 posts - 77 votes Speaks: Turkish*, Icelandic, English, German Studies: Spanish, Greek, Swedish, Hungarian, Mongolian, Modern Hebrew, Russian | Message 27 of 52 13 December 2010 at 4:19am | IP Logged | |||||
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The weekend was not so fruitful, I dislike learning numbers in all languages especially the ones which has male/female variation (icelandic actually has three genders plus declensions) but I needed to go through it in Hebrew. I spent 3 hours in total to be able to finish chapter 6 which was mostly about numbers and also possession pronouns. I'm already uttering some sentences here and there but my vocabulary is still very little (150 words only) which is not near my expectations yet. It should have been around 400-500 by now.
I could study some Hungarian also finished the second chapter of teach yourself Hungarian. 160 words already in the vocabulary which is pretty good for 2 hours studying in total. Hungarian is amusing and vowel harmony is nowhere as difficult as Turkish, the endings have two forms mostly or one as opposed to 4 forms in Turkish for one ending. Szerintem a magyar nagyon szép és elég könnyű nyelv. אני חושב שאני צריכ ללמוד עוד מלות בעיברית 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hakan D Tetraglot Groupie Turkey Joined 5092 days ago 45 posts - 77 votes Speaks: Turkish*, Icelandic, English, German Studies: Spanish, Greek, Swedish, Hungarian, Mongolian, Modern Hebrew, Russian | Message 28 of 52 17 December 2010 at 11:06pm | IP Logged | |||||
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HEBREW (Total hours studied 12 + Vocabulary study 1,5 hours)
I couldn't concentrate much on studying after a very busy week for me nevertheless. I'm almost done with the 8th chapter of the Hebrew in Three Months. I can say I've already started chatting my israeli friends on facebook, I pretty much understand them with my very limited vocabulary and make myself understood. At the moment I have approximately 270 words in my list, I know around 200 of them by heart which is still bad but anyway. I'll probably cover it up. The grammar of Hebrew is pretty much straightforward so it wasn't a big challenge until now. One thing very frustrating is that I'm not able to write Hebrew on my computer. I've tried other computers but they don't support right-to-left I've spent many hours trying to figure this out but I gave up. HUNGARIAN (Total hours studied 3 + Vocabulary study 45 minutes) I could only do FSI Chapter 1 exercises, and the conversations at Chapter 2. As opposed to very minimal vocabulary in Hebrew this one excels every hour. There are 245 words in the list and I can utilize pretty much all of them if need be. I've done some listening during this week as I wasn't really able to study a lot. I feel like I can hear Hungarian much better than Hebrew. I can distinguish the words although I wouldn't know them, go look it up and often times they exist. Though the frequency of acquired Hebrew words that I could hear were a lot more than Hungarian. Anyways off to Mongolian now! 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| lingoleng Senior Member Germany Joined 5289 days ago 605 posts - 1290 votes | Message 29 of 52 17 December 2010 at 11:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
Maybe you can think about using something like this: Hebrew Ubuntu Live CD. It is just an idea, there are certainly other solutions, but booting into a Hebrew environment may even be a nice inspiration. If you have questions: Feel free and so on... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hakan D Tetraglot Groupie Turkey Joined 5092 days ago 45 posts - 77 votes Speaks: Turkish*, Icelandic, English, German Studies: Spanish, Greek, Swedish, Hungarian, Mongolian, Modern Hebrew, Russian | Message 30 of 52 24 December 2010 at 1:35am | IP Logged | |||||
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Not much studying this week because of the flu that I had, nevertheless I could peek through the books a bit.
HEBREW (Total hours studied 17,5 - vocabulary study 2,5) Almost done with the 10th chapter, probably the thing that impedes my learning speed in hebrew is the letters especially when they are unvocalized. The achievement of the week was today when I called my friend to cancel the music practice that we were going to have due to sickness. He had to be a bit patient though for me to utter all those sentences but that went alright I guess :) As for writing skills (that is chatting online with friends), that goes much better than I expect. I also skimmed through a children's book in Hebrew and was pleased to read and understand first sentences, I could see the grammatical structures I have learned as well. (Currently around 400 words) HUNGARIAN (Total hours studied 4,5 - vocabulary study 1,5 hours) I'm studying currently both from FSI Hungarian book and Teach yourself Hungarian. The FSI drills are very exhaustive and at the end of each chapter the structures learned comes very easily out of my mouth. I think the teach yourself will be just a complementary for my Hungarian studies. I'm also writing down all the sentences on jmemorize and practice them later also. (Currently at around 450 words) MONGOLIAN (Total hours studied 1 hour - vocabulary study 25 minutes) I could just study the first chapter of Modern Mongolian but thinking of studying also Colloquial Mongolian at the same time. So far, some words very similar to Turkish and the vowel harmony is consistent with that of Hungarian. I was listening to Mongolian on youtube, it sounds very strange but I like challenges :) I'm using Anki with Mongolian to compare these flashcard programmes, not really that happy with this one but time will tell. Some video posting in Hebrew should have come around this time but because of my sickness I couldn't yet set up anything. It would be up very shortly though. GREEK (Total hours studied 1,5 hours - vocabulary study 30 minutes) Basically acquiring more vocabulary and on the way learning bits and pieces in grammar that I may have forgotten. Mostly working on building up more native sounding sentences. Edited by Hakan D on 24 December 2010 at 3:14am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5325 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 31 of 52 25 December 2010 at 11:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
Dear Hakan, Please forgive justberta. This is a cultural thing. She is just being a typical Norwegian. We are taught never to speak about our acheivements (unless they involve sports), and therefore we tend to be suspicious about others who do. It's nothing personal. I am following your log with interest. I certainly could not do what you do, but I wish you every success, and if you reach your goals it is most impressive. If you don't, you will in any event have learned more than if you did not set yourself such high goals, and that is the whole point, is it not? To study the languages of our choice to the best of our ability? Kind regards, Cristina 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hakan D Tetraglot Groupie Turkey Joined 5092 days ago 45 posts - 77 votes Speaks: Turkish*, Icelandic, English, German Studies: Spanish, Greek, Swedish, Hungarian, Mongolian, Modern Hebrew, Russian | Message 32 of 52 29 December 2010 at 9:10pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hello everyone,
So here's my first sound recording in Hebrew. I'll write down the full text here soon. When I worked through this one initially I wrote down an essay about myself and how I got interested in languages then I tried to memorize all of it as much as I could. When I was recording my speech I had the papers in front of me to check when I got stuck at some point so that the flow of the speech would be uninterrupted. http://www.archive.org/details/ModernHebrew1Beginner Any help from the native and advanced speakers are appreciated, tips, corrections, rephrasings and comments on the accent etc. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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