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| FireViN Diglot Senior Member Brazil missaoitaliano.wordpRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5220 days ago 196 posts - 292 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2 Studies: Italian | Message 1 of 3 18 February 2011 at 6:49pm | IP Logged |
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Hello everyone!
I've decided that I want to learn Italian last year, but I had this major busy time with school projects and job interviews during november and december. I wasn't very motivated and had zero resources. My goal is C1, I'm not worried about the time spent learning, but I'd like to achieve is as soon as I can. During January I spent most of my time searching for resources, books, websites, tv channels, everything, and now I decided to do this log so it can be an extra motivation. Which are my Italian skills now? Well, I can read simple texts, I understand a great part of vocabulary due to the similarity with portuguse, my native language, but I can't write at all. My listening skills are pretty good, I just gave to improve my writing and ortography. I can't speak very well, though I do a fair job while reading out loud. Which resources do I have? Pimsleur - I find it very slow since I can understand everything in the first unities. I never looked into more advanced stuff though. Michel Thomas - Pretty useful, but also bores me. I'm going to use it anyway. La Lingua Italiana per Stranieri (Elementare ed intermedio), by Katerin Katernov, 1985 - I recently bought this book (It actually just arrived) and seems to be one of the best courses to learn Italian. I also have the audio. I'll be doing 1 lesson a day, and if I struggle I'm going to review the lesson. I have a poor dictionary, very small, but useful sometimes. I'm willing to buy a good dictionary in the future. I'm seriously considering getting 'O Novo Italiano sem Esforço', Assimil, by Giovanna Galdo. I can buy the English version, but the book is the same for portuguese version, and that's cheaper here. I want to buy a good grammar too, in English or portuguese, but it can't be too expensive since I don't work yet. Any recommendation? Why am I motivated? My entire family is Italian, even though none of them can actually speak Italian. I want to go back to my origins, the language that my grandparents used to speak. That is my main motivation. I'm motivated by the fact that I want to study/live in Italy as soon as I get my citizenship, wich is my right, but brazilian bureaucracy scheduled my interview with the Italian embassy to 2019. The same request would take me only 3 months in Italy. I hope writing this log will keep my studies up. I'm also studying English (please, feel free to correct me!), flirting with other languages and studying regular subjects for Vestibular, the brazilian exams to be accepted in the University. Thanks for reading this, feel free (please do!) to comment and to correct any eventual mistakes. Grazie, Vinicius Edited by FireViN on 25 February 2011 at 3:55pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| FireViN Diglot Senior Member Brazil missaoitaliano.wordpRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5220 days ago 196 posts - 292 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2 Studies: Italian | Message 2 of 3 25 February 2011 at 3:54pm | IP Logged |
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Oh well, here I am.
That one-lesson-a-day thing was a big lie. The lessons are actually pretty easy, but there are many exercises, and the book is entirely in Italian, wich requires extra attention. I finished the lesson 1 yesterday, finally. I didn't struggle at the grammar, but mostly on the ortography, since I had to translate the initial text to portuguese and then back to Italian (this was an exercise) and I made some little mistakes and forgot one word. I'm at Unit 4 of Pimsleur, but as I said, I can understand almost everything and it actually bores me. I've been watching Italian TV Channels and movies all the time, and I feel like I'm understanding more and more each day. It's pretty cool to familiarize with the language, since my listening skills are getting bigger and my accent is pretty good for a beginner, even though I already speak a romance language. There are some aspects of the language that are a bit weird. I'm not understanding the difference between "dalla" and "della". It's also weird to learn that "fiore" (flower) is a masculine noun. It just doesn't sound right. To my brazilian ears, flowers are always going to be girls. Today I'm starting la seconda unità. I hope to finish this as soon as possible. Thanks for reading this, Vinicius 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| etacini Diglot Newbie Brazil Joined 6061 days ago 10 posts - 12 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English Studies: Italian, French, Latin | Message 3 of 3 19 March 2011 at 7:35pm | IP Logged |
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Hi Vinicius!
How're you doing with your studies? I've been in Italy for 2 months now, and I guess I'm doing exactly what you are planning to do in 8 years' time. Luckly enough, though, I only had to wait for 2,5 years to get my papers ready, as I had anticipated a lot of things before. I encourage you to learn as much Italian as possible before you come. You will definitely face a lot of Italian bureaucracy (as I am) and knowing the language will help you in ways you couldn't possibly imagine. Years ago I learned some Italian on my own through a book called "In Italiano" by Chiuchiù. I also watched some Italian channels on cable TV and used some other resources I found on the internet. Recently, in order to brush up on my Italian, I've bought "La lingua Italiana per straniere", and I think it's an incredibly good book (even superior to the one I had used before). My advice is: keep using it and don't rush through the process. Take your time to fully understand every little detail, and you will soon see the results. I'll be following your learning log with interest. Good luck with your studies! Edited by etacini on 06 April 2011 at 7:17pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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