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| acriter Senior Member United States Joined 5344 days ago 16 posts - 19 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, French | Message 1 of 6 28 February 2011 at 8:53pm | IP Logged |
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Frapanedish, n.: The convoluted and completely inseparable amalgamation of French, Japanese and Swedish that will likely manifest itself in my head over the next few months.
As stated in the TAC thread, my goals for this year are the following: French: novice -> A2/B1 German: maintain B2 / improve to C1 Japanese: novice -> A2 Swedish: novice -> A2 However, considering I have not really studied any of these languages but German, it is likely I will favor one of them above the others. I'm visiting my grandparents for a week starting tomorrow, and I don't want to lose momentum immediately after starting, so I think I will postpone the heavy studying until 3/9. In the interim (on the plane, lounging on the beach with my grandparents, etc) I will take a look at the Hiragana alphabet. As for a concrete long-term plan, I don't quite have one. I have a reasonable number of resources for French: an Assimil course, some Harry Potter books + audiotapes, and Netflix for the mandatory French films ;) For Japanese I have a few books that I picked up a long time ago, as well as the innumerable online resources. For German I will review the materials in the Goethe course I took last summer, listen to lots of German radio, and (most importantly of all) somehow work on my speech. Back when my German was in good form, I was tentatively placed in the C1 level for my grammar and writing, although I was no higher than B2 level in speaking and listening. I graduated last semester with a German major, and my language skills have rusted considerably since then. For Swedish, well, I'll have to figure something out! This week of buffer allows me to set a reasonable syllabus. If you have any ideas for Swedish (or for any of the languages, really) please let me know. Edited by acriter on 01 March 2011 at 10:41pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| acriter Senior Member United States Joined 5344 days ago 16 posts - 19 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, French | Message 2 of 6 01 March 2011 at 7:56am | IP Logged |
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Well, it turns out I have access to Rosetta Stone, so I did the first Japanese lesson, in Hiragana mode. After probably about an hour's worth of flashcarding, I've gotten quite familiar with a few of the letters, especially ko, ku and n, as well as the general "look" of the words I studied:
girl (onnanoko) boy (otokonoko) man (otokonohito) woman (onnanohito) plane (hikooki) car (kuruma) cat (neko) dog (inu) horse (uma) elephant (zoo) ball (booru) ahhh.... how do I format you? Is there a way to embed code? As for "over", "in", and "under" relationships, although I could choose the right pictures, all I really remember is "no shita" being part of the phrase for over. And something about "wakai" for a female. Unclear at this point. Tomorrow (today now) I will try to manually write out all of the respective hiragana and start working on the second lesson. My plane isn't until the second of March; I'm not sure what I was thinking in my previous post. Also, what's the easiest or best way to write Japanese text in this log? Edited by acriter on 01 March 2011 at 10:39pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| acriter Senior Member United States Joined 5344 days ago 16 posts - 19 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, French | Message 3 of 6 01 March 2011 at 10:34pm | IP Logged |
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To answer my own question about writing Japanese, Google's IME seems pretty good. The download and install were in Japanese, but I've downloaded enough things in my time to figure out what to do.
It also converts hiragana to kanji, which is pretty cool (although considering I don't know any kanji, it's hard to tell how good of a job it's doing). いぬ -> 犬 Can you all see the characters, or are they just boxes? Edited by acriter on 01 March 2011 at 10:49pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| acriter Senior Member United States Joined 5344 days ago 16 posts - 19 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, French | Message 4 of 6 02 March 2011 at 2:00am | IP Logged |
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Eine stunde noch mit Rosetta Stone; bald schreibe ich zum ersten Mal das Hiragana-
Alphabet. Ich habe viele deutschen Webseiten über Japanisch durchgelesen aber nichts Gutes gefunden. Mein Deutsch ist ja völlig aus der Übung (immer vergesse ich das Alt- code für Ü), aber hoffentlich kommt es schnell zurück. Noch nicht kann ich etwas Interessantes auf Japanisch sagen (oder schreiben); wenn ich aber ein bisschen über die Grammatik wüsste, könnte ich das vielleicht tun. Jetzt zum Schreiben! Edited by acriter on 02 March 2011 at 2:01am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| acriter Senior Member United States Joined 5344 days ago 16 posts - 19 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, French | Message 5 of 6 10 March 2011 at 1:32am | IP Logged |
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Aaaaand we're back to regularly scheduled programming.
Being in Florida was a nice break; it's still in the single digits Celsius with snow on the ground back here at home. While lounging in the sun I did manage to fully memorize Hiragana - that is, I can write (with terribly mediocre artistry) any given syllable and recognize which romaji syllable any character is. Next up I'll learn Katakana before truly delving into the real vocabulary. I still don't have a detailed long-term plan because I'm fairly bad at wider logistics; perhaps this is why I'm a decent chess tactician but an awful strategist. Once I learn Katakana (and learning the alphabets I take to be a fairly universal starting point) I'll figure out what my overall strategy will be. Anyone care to critique the German above? Engage in a bit of dialogue? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| acriter Senior Member United States Joined 5344 days ago 16 posts - 19 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, French | Message 6 of 6 20 March 2011 at 7:20pm | IP Logged |
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Well, my Florida week was immediately followed by a week with my girlfriend (who lives
1000 miles away), so I understandably failed to get much done. My hiragana has deteriorated quite a bit since last week, so the simple goal for today is to get the hiragana strong again (I had it down pretty cold), then learn 8 katakana. Should this take less than 2 hours I will sprinkle some Rosetta Stone on top. I listened to German radio for a couple hours yesterday to get the ol' juices flowing a bit. I plan on doing an hour of focused German listening every day, since listening/speaking is my weak point. I have delayed my French learning because a couple of my friends have expressed interest in learning Italian. Having taken 4 years of Latin, Italian sounds like a reasonable and fun excursion, and the potential for real-life Italian conversations among friends would very much help on the inspiration front. Although I tend to be introverted and enjoy self-directed pursuits, I do often rely on the participation of others for continued motivation. But if my friends do not decide in the next week, I shall begin the Frenchicalness. Swedish will begin whenever I learn to trill my damn R, at which I have been very unsuccessful (certainly not for lack of trying). I did find another resource for this yesterday though, so maybe it will help. Also I should probably begin formatting my posts. This might be extra boring to read. ;) Edited by acriter on 20 March 2011 at 7:23pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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