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How does English-accented French sound?
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Марк
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Message 25 of 35

24 June 2011 at 5:04pm | IP Logged

I judge from what I see. For me and for many others the distinction between "enfin" and
"enfant" was difficult to understand. And I still don't know how to pronounce "un"
correctly. And 80 % of people I have seen managed to pronounce French "r".

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Arekkusu
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Message 26 of 35

24 June 2011 at 5:34pm | IP Logged

Марк wrote:

How can you be so sure that they are saying R right if you aren't a native speaker?
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Марк
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Message 27 of 35

24 June 2011 at 6:27pm | IP Logged

Arekkusu wrote:

Марк wrote:

I judge from what I see. For me and for many others the
distinction between "enfin" and
"enfant" was difficult to understand. And I still don't know how to pronounce "un"
correctly. And 80 % of people I have seen managed to pronounce French "r".

How can you be so sure that they are saying R right if you aren't a native speaker?

Teachers never corrected me, it is similar to what I hear. Even if I pronounce it a
little bit incorrect, it doesn't matter much. It contrasts with the situation with nasal
vowels.
If some one wants, I can record a sample of a French text, so my pronunciation could be
judged.
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Arekkusu
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Message 28 of 35

24 June 2011 at 7:25pm | IP Logged

Марк wrote:

Arekkusu wrote:

Марк wrote:

I judge from what I see. For me and for many others the
distinction between "enfin" and
"enfant" was difficult to understand. And I still don't know how to pronounce "un"
correctly. And 80 % of people I have seen managed to pronounce French "r".

How can you be so sure that they are saying R right if you aren't a native speaker?

It's not your pronunciation I doubt, but that of the 80% you mention.
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Марк
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24 June 2011 at 8:15pm | IP Logged

I recorded a paragraph from French Wikipedia of the article about French language:
À l'époque de la conquête de la Gaule par les armées romaines de Jules César en 52 av.
J.-C., la Gaule était majoritairement peuplée de tribus gauloises qui parlaient des
langues celtiques certainement apparentées et probablement mutuellement intelligibles. Il
n’existait donc pas une mais plusieurs langues gauloises, qui n’étaient que très rarement
écrites. La langue des Romains, le latin, connaissait l’écriture, et en tant que langue
de l'autorité et langue de prestige, le latin vulgaire fut peu à peu adopté par tous au
cours des siècles qui suivirent la conquête du pays en 51 av. J.-C..
Here is the link:
http://narod.ru/disk/17055162001/my%20french.wma.html

Edited by Марк on 24 June 2011 at 8:17pm
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Lootrock
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Message 31 of 35

25 June 2011 at 9:45am | IP Logged

Kuikentje wrote:

I agree with Arekkusu. Only the native speakers can judge that.

It's exactly like the Dutch when they say about another dutch, that the person speak accentless English (they say it often about themself, and they laugh at others for example francophones and Italians). I don't believe them, only when a native speaker say it, then yes, I would believe, but it's arrogant when a non-native one make such a judgement.

Funny you should mention that. I have met a few dutch people and none of them had accents. Though according the last one I met she said that the Dutch in her actual country don't have great accents. Granted I did not have an extended conversation with any of them, I was very impressed.

@Mapk

I'm having a hard time downloading the file so I haven't listened to it yet. The thing is, there is mediocre pronunciation and then there is great pronunciation; particularly with the uvular R. A lot of people can get by, but when it comes to saying words where it is more prominent like "rue" for example, it becomes more of an issue.
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Марк
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25 June 2011 at 11:11am | IP Logged

I tried to download it myself and it was very easy. You just enter the number and press
"Скачать" (download) and it will be downloaded.

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