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German Perfekt vs. Imperfekt
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Cabaire
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Message 9 of 14

26 June 2011 at 1:35am | IP Logged

Ich believe, s/he wants to say, that you may say "Ich bin im Wald gestanden", but only "Ich habe die Wahrheit gestanden".
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lingoleng
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Message 10 of 14

26 June 2011 at 2:17am | IP Logged

Kuikentje wrote:

[QUOTE=lingoleng]
Das war wohl sehr interessant!!! Ich kenne belgisch Deutsch oder auch die Dialekte im westen des NRWs aber nicht Bayerisch. Ich würde es gerne hören. Schreibst du auch darauf, oder beim Schreiben ist das nur auf Hochdeutchs?

No, I speak Bavarian and write standard normalized Hochdeutsch (with light dialectal influence, for sure, maybe a little bit like Hoelderlin, or Goethe, ahem ... their dialectisms are noticable, otherwise they have little in common, with me ...). There are many videos on youtube with Bavarian/Austrian speakers, but I am too lazy to look for something now, maybe later more.
My main point was, that "conversational German" may be a rather forced construction, at least for native dialect speakers, so it is very difficult to give definite answers what features it has or does not have.

Edited by lingoleng on 26 June 2011 at 2:19am
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Message 11 of 14

26 June 2011 at 2:36am | IP Logged

Nope, Doitsujin is correct, I got confused myself. I don't even use those forms myself, so it's a bit of a mystery.
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Message 12 of 14

27 June 2011 at 1:01am | IP Logged

Thanks you all - you're very helpful!
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Message 13 of 14

27 June 2011 at 1:04pm | IP Logged

lingoleng wrote:

When I talk to people who don't understand my dialect (other German speakers, usually) I use a phonetically normalized Bavarian (still no Imperfekt/Präteritum), and only when thrown into more formal situations I switch to a "real" standard Hochdeutsch, with fully developed tense system.

As far as I know this is also the situation in Switzerland.
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lingoleng
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27 June 2011 at 11:10pm | IP Logged

Iversen wrote:

lingoleng wrote:

As far as I know this is also the situation in Switzerland.

Thank you for the addition. I would even think that most/all dialect speakers use such a two step (at least) model of upward climbing (well, or downgrading, from the dialect speakers point of view ...), but this is pure (uneducated) guessing, so I just think it and don't say it.

For Kuki:
The man in this youtube video speaks a dialect very similar to mine. A public performance is rarely authentic, and he makes some concessions (in order to be understood) and uses words like "amortisieren", but on the other hand it is very close to real life, so enjoy ;-)

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