Po-ru Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5481 days ago 173 posts - 235 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Spanish, Norwegian, Mandarin, French
| Message 1 of 6 08 July 2011 at 8:47pm | IP Logged |
Hi everyone. I have been studying Japanese for about two years now. I've neglected
Kanji studying hardcore so I've decide to work on it this summer.
I am trying to study three written Kanji a day to practice writing and stroke order and
such. I was wondering if I should also be studying some kanji for reading, such as more
difficult characters that I won't be writing anytime soon but I can still familiarize
myself with. I was wondering what you all think of this. And what was the best way of
doing this?
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Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6660 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin
| Message 2 of 6 08 July 2011 at 10:57pm | IP Logged |
It’s easier to write more complex characters if you’ve mastered the easy ones first. 木来本大、日月ロ国、一二三川 etc.
etc. are relatively easy to write — yet it takes a lot of practise to get them looking good. But, there’s no idea to start
to practise writing 愛曜勉強家物 and othermore ‹busy› signs before one can write the easy ones properly — however
all of the ones I listed are very frequent, so being able to recognize them is… well, good. 勉強する is often taught in
the very beginning of japanese courses (benkyou suru) but writing that ain’t easy for someone who still struggle to
get 明 to look good.
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Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5767 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin
| Message 3 of 6 09 July 2011 at 12:44am | IP Logged |
Learning to read kanji is a lot easier than learning to write them. I think that unless you're using a textbook that introduces very little kanji and no other material you can learn most readings with your vocabulary.
If you use facebook, kanjibox is a nice way to get additional reading practice.
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lichtrausch Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5961 days ago 525 posts - 1072 votes Speaks: English*, German, Japanese Studies: Korean, Mandarin
| Message 4 of 6 09 July 2011 at 5:32pm | IP Logged |
I wouldn't bother learning to write more than 300 kanji or so, unless they really interest you. There are so few situations these days where handwriting kanji is necessary that I think it makes sense to put the overwhelming amount of your time and effort to learning to read them well.
That said, you should definitely study writing (and radicals) enough so that if you need to copy a kanji down, you can do it properly. For example if you asked a typical Japanese person to write 融 on the spot, they would probably fail at it. But if they had to copy down some information from a blackboard or an address that included that kanji, they could write it in a perfectly acceptable way with the correct stroke order.
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Fiveonefive Diglot Groupie Japan Joined 5694 days ago 69 posts - 88 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Swedish
| Message 5 of 6 11 July 2011 at 5:23am | IP Logged |
I disagree with lichtrausch. Learning how to write kanji can really reinforce and strengthen your kanji reading abilities.
In my expereince, my Japanese abilities exploded (in a good way) when I began to concentrate on writing kanji and started studying for the kanji kentei. But your milage my vary.
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Lasciel Groupie United States Joined 5374 days ago 55 posts - 81 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese
| Message 6 of 6 12 July 2011 at 2:30am | IP Logged |
Fiveonefive wrote:
I disagree with lichtrausch. Learning how to write kanji can really reinforce and strengthen your kanji reading abilities.
In my expereince, my Japanese abilities exploded (in a good way) when I began to concentrate on writing kanji and started studying for the kanji kentei. But your milage my vary. |
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Writing helps me too; especially in regards to being able to tell the difference between very similar looking kanji. I don't think it's necessary, but it is helpful.
In regards to Po-ru's question of studying some just for reading, it sounds like a good idea. Even if you're not studying them as intensely as the ones you learn to write, a more casual familiarity with some kanji before you study writing them is better than no knowledge of that kanji.
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