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| talimore Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5395 days ago 3 posts - 4 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Vietnamese | Message 1 of 16 17 February 2010 at 5:11am | IP Logged | ||
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Hello everyone!
I'm new to these forums and I have a couple questions about Rosetta Stone for learning Vietnamese and learning Vietnamese in general. I'm a native English speaker and an Intermediate Japanese Speaker, have been studying full time for almost 2 years. But before I ask my questions I will give a little background on myself so you may better understand my situation. I am 22 years old and will soon Graduate from College. I currently am living in Japan to improve my Japanese skills. I have been dating the love of my life for the past couple of years and in a short few years we will be married. She is Vietnamese, born in Vietnam, and speaks English, Vietnamese, and Japanese. If I am to converse with most of her family I need to learn Vietnamese. I would also like to learn Vietnamese because her family and heritage are really important to her. My questions for all of you who are still reading this are the following; How different is Vietnamese from English/Japanese. I understand that Vietnamese is a tonal language and neither English or Japanese are. Has anyone here used Rosetta Stone Vietnamese or Rosetta Stone in General? Did you enjoy the program? I ask this because my father is in the military and I am allowed access to Rosetta Stone V3 for free as part of Army Knowledge Online. I currently have 2 months off from school, if I start the Rosetta Stone Program tomorrow, how much do you think I could finish in 2 months with an average of 2-3 hours a day of study. What should I use beside Rosetta Stone to help me enhance my Vietnamese? ~~~~ I think that is all I wanted to ask. I am sorry for the long topic but I am really thankful to anyone who has read the whole thing and is willing to help me out. Thank you to all of you in advance and I really look forward to reading your responses. Everyone have a great day and good luck studying!!! ~Devin A.K.A. ~Talimore 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5423 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 2 of 16 17 February 2010 at 8:17am | IP Logged | ||
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Most people on here don't like Rosetta Stone, but if it's free you should definitely try it out and see if you like it. Also see if you can get your hands on some audio courses, workbooks, and other things. One course won't bring you to fluency. Good luck
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| talimore Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5395 days ago 3 posts - 4 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Vietnamese | Message 3 of 16 17 February 2010 at 9:38am | IP Logged | ||
Rosetta Stone just released V3 for AKO (army knowledge online) which now comes with audio companion. Which is an audio version to take with you on the go like that program that starts with a P... Also Rosetta Stone V3, from what I read, has more checkmarks while studying. And it says, according to these reviews, the test your speaking, reading, and writing during the checkmarks... IDK though because I have never used it but for it being available for free I think Ill use it but I want opinions of you guys first. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Delodephius Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 5404 days ago 342 posts - 501 votes Speaks: Slovak*, Serbo-Croatian*, EnglishC1, Czech Studies: Russian, Japanese | Message 4 of 16 17 February 2010 at 6:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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I like Rosetta Stone, but I do suggest you also get yourself a dictionary of Vietnamese. It helps to check out words if you can't figure out something.
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| Raincrowlee Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 6703 days ago 621 posts - 808 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Indonesian, Japanese | Message 5 of 16 17 February 2010 at 7:39pm | IP Logged | ||
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I haven't studied much Vietnamese, but it is very different from both Japanese and English, especially English. It has some connection to Japanese in that both languages borrowed heavily from Chinese, but the paths the took with the borrowings was quite different and I'm really not sure how much if any help it will be.
The grammar is quite different from Japanese, however. SVO order, for starters, but it groups words in different ways than both languages. Plus, in addition to tones, it has a number of sounds that neither language has, especially certain vowels and ng at the beginning of words. You should be able to access this site: http://www.fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php?page=Vietnam ese with has an old FSI program for learning Vietnamese that you can download for free. Another site that has links to other Vietnamese programs is here : http://soyouwanttolearnalanguage.googlepages.com/vietnamese And one of our members uploaded some DLI courses here: http://www.4shared.com/file/128374046/848da491/Vietnamesepdf _audio1.html http://www.4shared.com/file/128386013/a1c9fb01/Vietnameseaud io2.html http://www.4shared.com/file/128629220/5277b452/Vietnameseaud io3.html http://www.4shared.com/file/128717166/b11db47c/Vietnameseaud io4.html http://www.4shared.com/file/128723919/a8328315/Vietnameseaud io5.html http://www.4shared.com/file/128729416/5fe8edb3/Vietnameseaud io6.html Remove the spaces and download. The FSI has no copyright, and we believe the DLI doesn't either, so they are legal to download. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Fat-tony Nonaglot Senior Member United Kingdom jiahubooks.co.uk Joined 6141 days ago 288 posts - 441 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Russian, Esperanto, Thai, Laotian, Urdu, Swedish, French Studies: Mandarin, Indonesian, Arabic (Written), Armenian, Pali, Burmese | Message 6 of 16 17 February 2010 at 9:41pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm married to a Thai speaker and the Thai language presents many of the same problems to
an English speakers as Vietnamese (although the two are unrelated). Rosetta Stone, if it's free, is a useful supplement at the earliest stages for getting to grip with some of the most basic vocab. However, my experience was that having a native speaker would easily cover that. Try uz-translations which has some out-of-print resources along with some blatantly pirated ones so you can "try before you buy". The Teach Yourself course looks ok. The SEA Site has a decent Vietnamese section. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| talimore Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5395 days ago 3 posts - 4 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Vietnamese | Message 7 of 16 18 February 2010 at 1:29am | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you everyone for your help, suggestions, and support! I really appreciate it! And thanks a lot for the uploaded materials and advice on Rosetta Stone. And yes I agree, Vietnamese is very different from English or Japanese and is very difficult. The ng sound alone is difficult to master. But seeing her happy is more than worth the trouble. Thanks again guys and girls!
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| indiana83 Groupie United States ipracticecanto.wordp Joined 5491 days ago 92 posts - 121 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Cantonese, Italian | Message 8 of 16 18 February 2010 at 7:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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The ng initial gets easier if you start by saying "hang on", "hang up", "sing on", and so forth. Say them as a single word, so that the "ng" kind of slurs between being a final of the first syllable and an initial of the second syllable.
Then practice saying the phrases again with more emphasis on the ng being the initial of the second syllable. The ng initial is very common in Cantonese, and that is the method our teacher taught us. It definitely helped me. However, it will still be difficult - I know even in the second or third course, there were still some fellow students who struggled with this initial. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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