xees Newbie Joined 5053 days ago 28 posts - 64 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Vietnamese
| Message 9 of 16 25 January 2011 at 4:38pm | IP Logged |
Vietnamese is very worthwhile studying. Which variety are you studying? Northern or Southern?
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6012 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 10 of 16 26 January 2011 at 11:51am | IP Logged |
talimore wrote:
Rosetta Stone just released V3 for AKO (army knowledge online) which now comes with audio companion. Which is an audio version to take with you on the go like that program that starts with a P... Also Rosetta Stone V3, from what I read, has more checkmarks while studying. And it says, according to these reviews, the test your speaking, reading, and writing during the checkmarks... |
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Every few years your laundry detergent gets "double concentrated" or a "new stain-release formula". If all these marketing claims were as serious as they make out, your clothes would now be shining bright with a teaspoonful of washing powder.
RS has always tested you as you go along. From the marketing blurb, it sounds as though they're just making it more obvious and making a bigger deal of tracking your score. It sounds like a superficial change to me. Of course, voice recognition technology has improved over recent years, so I would hope that RS has licensed one of the newer, more accurate VR engines, but at its heart, the teaching method is the same as always, and not very effective.
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chrisphillips71 Groupie United States Joined 5237 days ago 64 posts - 86 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 11 of 16 14 February 2011 at 2:09am | IP Logged |
Has anybody had any success learning Vietnamese? I ask because my wife is Vietnamese,
and I would very much like to learn the language. However, I am in awe of how difficult
it appears to be. I tried once before (using Pimsleur) and gave up. Actually, I did not
give up completely because I took up learning Spanish which I love. I have been at
Spanish for nearly a year (I am still not very good), but a part of me still really wants
to learn Vietnamese. Any suggestions on learning Vietnamese or stories of learning
Vietnamese are appreciated.
-Chris Phillips
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Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7122 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian
| Message 12 of 16 14 February 2011 at 7:45am | IP Logged |
Hi Chris,
What exactly are you finding difficult about it? I mean, is it the pronunciation, the vovabulary, grammar? It could be that you need a different strategy from whatever you've used in the past. All languages are difficult to some extent, which is why you have a forum like this with so many posts on it.
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chrisphillips71 Groupie United States Joined 5237 days ago 64 posts - 86 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 13 of 16 14 February 2011 at 11:38am | IP Logged |
At the most basic level, what I find difficult is remembering words. With Spanish, words
bear some relation to English, making them easier to remember. To me, Vietnamese words
seem to be just random sounds and there is nothing for me to associate each word with.
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Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7122 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian
| Message 14 of 16 21 February 2011 at 6:39am | IP Logged |
It sounds like you would benefit from a mnemonic approach to learning Vietnamese vocabulary, whereby you create your own link to the words you want to learn. It takes a bit of creativity and imagination, but you can build a link back to almost any word and make it easier to remember. Of course, you'lll have to factor in the tones and listen to the real pronunciation, but the mnemonic will offer you a link back to what you want to learn, and you should find the whole process a lot easier. There's a fair amount online about mnemonics, so please Google it, and if you don't know what I'm getting at here, I'll elaborate.
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xees Newbie Joined 5053 days ago 28 posts - 64 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Vietnamese
| Message 15 of 16 21 February 2011 at 4:32pm | IP Logged |
For me, remembering word in Vietnamese isn't about linking them to words in my native language (English).
I have found that once i had the basic verbs (eat - ăn, drink - uống, want - muốn, know - biết, understand- hiểu) I could start creating sentences and become more comfortable with the language. When i was more comfortable i began adding words to these structures and slowly understood more and more.
My advice would be try to add new words to structures that you are comfortable with, when you are more aquainted with the language then you begin to venture forth with new vocab.
For example I begin with basic question structure and answers.
Bạn muốn đi ăn không? (Do you want to eat?)
Muốn, tôi muốn đi ăn. (Yeah, i want to eat)
From there it become more complex adding words to this structure that i was already comfortable with. Vietnamese is a strange language so it's best to learn the basic structures and then add to them!
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anh001 Newbie Vietnam Joined 4964 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes
| Message 16 of 16 24 April 2011 at 7:21pm | IP Logged |
Hello,
I'm a Vietnamese. ( Tôi là người Việt Nam)
I want to learning English, thus every body want to learn Vietnamese. I can help you.
(Tôi muốn học tiếng anh, vì vậy ai đó muốn học tiếng Việt thì tôi có thể giúp)
Email: hocit88@gmail.com
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