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The Lady Learner in MT French | ||
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| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes  Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 9 of 33 04 April 2011 at 6:21pm | IP Logged | |||||
I've not done any of the original MT courses. I've only done the Polish Foundation and Advanced. In the Foundation course, the woman was particularly annoying, while the man was much more focused on what he was doing. There was a break of about a year between when Foundation came out and Advanced came out. In the Advanced course, it's as if the man and the woman swapped brains. He became the annoying one in the Advanced course. I'm guessing that during that break in time the woman developed an interest in Polish, while the man didn't. From what I understand, though, the original courses were all done with no large breaks in between the levels. R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6012 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 10 of 33 04 April 2011 at 7:35pm | IP Logged | |||||
I think you overestimate the average learner. The people on the MT courses are fairly typical of people who aren't "into" languages.
Nope. Thomas recorded the Foundation courses then went home. They weren't called "foundation" then because they weren't planning a follow-up. It must have been about 5 years later that he got him back to do the Advanced courses. (In the interim, he had done the Language Builder courses, which probably took next-to-no time to put together.) The students are completely different, and the courses don't continue cleanly (the Advanced Spanish course has a lot of revision to start off with, the French doesn't, and it introduces a lot of new vocabulary out of nowhere.) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 11 of 33 04 April 2011 at 8:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
Interesting. The Polish Advanced course is clearly a continuation of the Foundation course. That's one of the things I liked about it. They made an effort to get the same students (and teacher, of course), and the material is easily recognizable as an extension of the Foundation course. R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ChiaBrain Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5809 days ago 402 posts - 512 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish* Studies: Portuguese, Italian, French Studies: German | Message 12 of 33 04 April 2011 at 10:08pm | IP Logged | |||||
I was just joking. I agree, most language learners are not "lingua-nerds" but are learning for some practical purpose. That said I do enjoy the MT method. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| psy88 Senior Member United States Joined 5592 days ago 469 posts - 882 votes Studies: Spanish*, Japanese, Latin, French | Message 13 of 33 05 April 2011 at 4:24am | IP Logged | |||||
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I have used the MT Spanish (all levels) and am now doing the French Foundation (10 CD set). Yes, there are students on the MT courses that make mistakes but I give them credit for being willing to have themselves -and their annoying mistakes-recorded for posterity. I actually find myself rooting for the underdog learner on the CD's, hoping they get it right.
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| anothername Triglot Groupie Brazil Joined 5062 days ago 96 posts - 195 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Spanish, English | Message 14 of 33 05 April 2011 at 4:53am | IP Logged | |||||
Good point, but perhaps the average learner who are not "into" languages still tends to overestimate himself, and still believes he's smarter than the "french lady" anyway. Spotting crass mistakes on others is much easier. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| egill Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5697 days ago 418 posts - 791 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch | Message 15 of 33 05 April 2011 at 5:19am | IP Logged | |||||
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I really think there is something to the notion of a dumbed down learner being there to soothe
listeners' egos. I'm not saying it's completely scripted and edited, but it just seems that for such a large undertaking, they certainly wouldn't leave everything up to chance. Edited by egill on 05 April 2011 at 5:20am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| rdgjd Newbie United States Joined 5150 days ago 10 posts - 13 votes | Message 16 of 33 07 April 2011 at 5:02am | IP Logged | |||||
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As an aside, If you listen carefully to the intro to each recording i.e. "Speak French for Beginners, with Michel Thomas...etc." you will notice it is her voice doing that as well.
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