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The Lady Learner in MT French | ||
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| mr_chinnery Senior Member England Joined 5762 days ago 202 posts - 297 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 17 of 33 07 April 2011 at 11:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
No, the lady who does the introduction is English, the learner has a North American accent. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| rdgjd Newbie United States Joined 5154 days ago 10 posts - 13 votes | Message 18 of 33 08 April 2011 at 5:07am | IP Logged | |||||
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Not in the McGraw-Hill repackaged american version....the british narrator is on the Hodder & Stoughton original.
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| draoicht Groupie Ireland Joined 6318 days ago 89 posts - 146 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 19 of 33 08 April 2011 at 11:35am | IP Logged | |||||
I remember reading on the old MT forum that the voice at the start of the Hodder original courses is Ginny Catmur, who is also the teacher of the MT Portugese course. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6555 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 20 of 33 08 April 2011 at 1:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
1) I assume they are getting paid. 2) Some of them are "ringers" - already proficient in the language. 3) Some of the mistakes are staged. etc. It's sort of like reality TV - often no more real than other TV shows, but designed to make you think they are. Not a big deal to me, because staged or not, the programs work well. But I certainly won't give credit to a mediocre voice actor. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| psy88 Senior Member United States Joined 5596 days ago 469 posts - 882 votes Studies: Spanish*, Japanese, Latin, French | Message 21 of 33 09 April 2011 at 2:53am | IP Logged | |||||
Wow! I did not know that.Perhaps I am too naive sometimes. But, I agree that the program works well, and I am still going to root for the slow learner, even though I know it may be faked. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6016 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 22 of 33 09 April 2011 at 11:46am | IP Logged | |||||
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According to Hodder, the students were all singers or actors. This was because they needed people who would be comfortable speaking into microphones and would speak clearly and loudly enough. Hodder insist there was no script. But it would make sense that the editor commissioning the US versions might have heard one of the students on one of the recordings and then commissioned her to do the introductions.
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| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7126 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 23 of 33 10 April 2011 at 12:46am | IP Logged | |||||
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I believe these courses are actually scripted this way, believe it or not!
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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6016 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 24 of 33 10 April 2011 at 1:51am | IP Logged | |||||
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I don't believe the courses were scripted. If they were, those actors are bloody good, and in which case I'm sure we'd have seen some Oscar-winning performances from them by now.
Also, every flaw in the courses shows a hole in Thomas's methodology, and if the courses were scripted, this would not occur. Take a look at the German Foundation course. Thomas doesn't teach the neutral word order properly and seems to be surprised that the students don't know it. If he had scripted it, they would have known the correct word order, even though he hadn't taught it. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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