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Phantom Kat
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 Message 9 of 21
24 May 2011 at 4:53am | IP Logged 
I'm from Mexico, and my family (including grandparents) have always used español. Whenever I say castellano I'm referring to the Spanish spoken in Spain and not the Spanish I speak.

- Kat
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Saim
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 Message 10 of 21
24 May 2011 at 12:01pm | IP Logged 
Phantom Kat wrote:
I'm from Mexico, and my family (including grandparents) have always
used español. Whenever I say castellano I'm referring to the Spanish spoken
in Spain and not the Spanish I speak.

- Kat

I've found the same thing with Mexicans, that castellano is Spain Spanish and
español is Latino. I tend to use the word "castellano", so there was a bit of
confusion...
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michi
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 Message 11 of 21
02 June 2011 at 12:15pm | IP Logged 
I have the feeling that both in Latin America and in Spain "castellano" and "espanol" are used more or less like synonyms. I once read in a book that in Latin America the normal expression for Spanish is "castellano", both when I used the expression talking to somebody from Cuba she was confused and thought I was talking about a dialect from Spain. I have also used in Catalonia because I thought they would prefer the expression "castellano" but they talked about "espanol" too.
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Cainntear
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 Message 12 of 21
02 June 2011 at 1:38pm | IP Logged 
michi wrote:
I have the feeling that both in Latin America and in Spain "castellano" and "espanol" are used more or less like synonyms. I once read in a book that in Latin America the normal expression for Spanish is "castellano", both when I used the expression talking to somebody from Cuba she was confused and thought I was talking about a dialect from Spain. I have also used in Catalonia because I thought they would prefer the expression "castellano" but they talked about "espanol" too.

As you can see from your own experience, they're not used as synonyms. In some parts of South America, castellano means Spanish Spanish and español is the language in general, but in others, español is Spanish Spanish and castellano is the language in general.
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Carlos Ignacio
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 Message 13 of 21
03 June 2011 at 4:08am | IP Logged 
In Chile we use both of them. 'Spanish' and 'Castellano' are the same here, but I'd say
that 'Castellano' is more used in academic circles (just an impression, though).

getreallanguage wrote:
patuco wrote:
getreallanguage wrote:
Suffice to say, if you
use 'americano', you should make sure you know enough Spanish to be ready to follow the
animated geopolitical discussion that might follow.
...depending on who you're
talking to.


Of course. Hence my use of 'might'.


And yeah... 'estadounidense' and 'nortemaricano' is the same, but 'americano' can be
either a Chilean or a Canadian. You shouldn't say 'americano' referring to a
'nortemaricano'/'estadounidense', besides the fact you'd probably misunderstood, it'll
bring an avoidably and unwelcome discussion (in English you can't say European to talk
about a German person*, it's pretty the same here).

* Unless you want to highlight the fact that Germany is an European country, of
course.

Edited by Carlos Ignacio on 03 June 2011 at 6:04am
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hcueva
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 Message 14 of 21
03 June 2011 at 6:59pm | IP Logged 
Pretty much every Mexican would call their language español. If you talk to a Mexican
about castellano, there's a risk he or she might interpret it as Spanish from Spain.

We, in Mexico, are completely foreign to Spain's internal problems and separatist
sentiments, so we don't care much.


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kerateo
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 Message 15 of 21
03 June 2011 at 11:38pm | IP Logged 
Carlos Ignacio wrote:
In Chile we use both of them. 'Spanish' and 'Castellano' are the same here, but I'd say
that 'Castellano' is more used in academic circles (just an impression, though).

getreallanguage wrote:
patuco wrote:
getreallanguage wrote:
Suffice to say, if you
use 'americano', you should make sure you know enough Spanish to be ready to follow the
animated geopolitical discussion that might follow.
...depending on who you're
talking to.


Of course. Hence my use of 'might'.


And yeah... 'estadounidense' and 'nortemaricano' is the same, but 'americano' can be
either a Chilean or a Canadian. You shouldn't say 'americano' referring to a
'nortemaricano'/'estadounidense', besides the fact you'd probably misunderstood, it'll
bring an avoidably and unwelcome discussion (in English you can't say European to talk
about a German person*, it's pretty the same here).

* Unless you want to highlight the fact that Germany is an European country, of
course.



Here we use "gringos" or "gabachos" (me voy de compras a gabacholandia) :)

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Carlos Ignacio
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 Message 16 of 21
06 June 2011 at 4:55am | IP Logged 
kerateo wrote:
Carlos Ignacio wrote:
In Chile we use both of them. 'Spanish' and
'Castellano' are the same here, but I'd say
that 'Castellano' is more used in academic circles (just an impression, though).

getreallanguage wrote:
patuco wrote:
getreallanguage wrote:
Suffice to say, if you
use 'americano', you should make sure you know enough Spanish to be ready to follow the
animated geopolitical discussion that might follow.
...depending on who you're
talking to.


Of course. Hence my use of 'might'.


And yeah... 'estadounidense' and 'nortemaricano' is the same, but 'americano' can be
either a Chilean or a Canadian. You shouldn't say 'americano' referring to a
'nortemaricano'/'estadounidense', besides the fact you'd probably misunderstood, it'll
bring an avoidably and unwelcome discussion (in English you can't say European to talk
about a German person*, it's pretty the same here).

* Unless you want to highlight the fact that Germany is an European country, of
course.



Here we use "gringos" or "gabachos" (me voy de compras a gabacholandia) :)


Yeah, here in Chile we also use gringo (pl. gringos) to refer to Americans (and
sometimes we use Gringolandia to refer U.S.A.), but sometimes it extends to English,
Canadians and Germans. And it's not really offensive at all, like someone could thinks.


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