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| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5229 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 17 of 20 08 June 2011 at 8:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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Since my post sounded equally rude, of course. The latest economic hubbub in Greece led me to visualize the country as worse off than it really is.
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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 18 of 20 09 June 2011 at 1:57pm | IP Logged | ||
Maybe because they write in Modern Greek? I have not studied Ancient Greek, but I have seen no end of Greek scholars with Greek names who have written about classical archeology, mythology and other themes, and I'm fairly sure that the majority of those people can read the auld language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| RabbitRabbit Triglot Newbie Hong Kong Joined 4925 days ago 12 posts - 12 votes Speaks: Mandarin, Cantonese*, English Studies: Spanish, Turkish | Message 19 of 20 09 June 2011 at 5:24pm | IP Logged | ||
Hi there! Thanks for your reply in Greek! Here comes my friend's reply: Τί διαφέρει Ἀρεῖος Ποτῆρ ἢ Λουκίανος; Οὔδεν ἴσως, ἀλλ' οὔδεν μᾶλλον ἐπιτεύξει τοῦ σκόπου τὸ πᾶν ἑν, τὸ δὲ ἑν οὔδεν εἶναι τιθεμένη, οὐ γὰρ ἤπαινον ἐγὼ τὸν Λούκιανον τοῦ Λεξιφάνους μιμνώσκων, ἀλλ' ἐβουλόμην δήλωσαί σοι ὅτι τῷ τῆς μεταγραφῆς χαλεπότητι οὐκ ἴσον δύναται τὸ τοῦ πράγματος ἀξιόλογον. Τί δὲ τοῦτο; φημί γε τὸ Ἑλληνικὸν κράτιστον τῶν ἀνθρωπίνων εἶναι δημιούργημα ᾧ χρώμενοι τὰ καλλίστα τά τε σεμνότατα ἐπισκοπεῖν καὶ ἀνευρεῖν δυνάμεθα, ἀνθ' ὧν μέντοι προῃρημένοι τὸ ληρεῖν καὶ φλυαρεῖν, μεταλλάξομεν κόπρον ἀντὶ τοῦ χρυσοῦ ἡμᾶς αὐτοῦς ἐξαπατῶντες. ὁ μὲν οὖν Ουίλσον μεταγέγραφε τὸ Ποτῆρ μήδεν ἴσως βέλτιον ἔχων πρὸς τὸ διδάσκειν τὸ Ἑλληνικὸν τοῖς νεανίσκοις τοῖς τε νεανιεύεσθαι ἀεὶ βουλομένοις, ᾧ ἀν τὴν τοῦ αἰῶνος τεκμαιρομένους ἀβελτερίαν ἡμᾶς ἀναζητεῖν ἆρα οὐ δεῖ τὴν σωτηρίαν τήν τε τέρψιν ἐν τῇ σωφροσύνῃ, ἥπερ τῆς μὲν αἰσχροῦ πρὸς τοῦ καλοῦ διαφορᾶς διδασκάλος, τῆς δὲ κατὰ ταύτην τὴν ἐπιστημὴν διαίτας ὁδηγός ἐστί; Ἀλλ' ἀντερεῖς δήπου μοι, οὔδεν τοιοῦτον τι μέγα λέγουσα τὴν ἡμῶν εἶναι διαφορὰν. Βραχείας μέντοι οὔσης τῆς ἀνθρωπίνης ζωῆς, ἡμῶν δὲ πάσων ἀπολαύεσθαι τῶν ἀρεστῶν μὴ δυναμένων, ἑλέσθαι δεῖ τὰ χρῆστα τά τε καλὰ τοὺς ἥδιστα βιοῦν μέλλοντας, ὧν τὸ μέρος τι τοὺς ὑογόητας εἶναι ὑπολαβεῖν θαυμάσιόν ἐστί μοι, διὸ καὶ ταῦτα γέγραφα. Καὶ ἐρήσομαι δεύτερον, τίνος χάριν μέλει ἡμῖν τοῦ καλοῦ ἢ τοῦ σεμνοῦ; Διότι τὸ καλὸν καὶ σεμνόν ἐστιν ἡδονὴ ἡ μόνη τὴν ἀνθρωπίνην μάλιστα φύσιν τέρπειν δυναμένη. Καὶ μὴν τοῖς τὸν ἅπαντα βίον παίζεσθαι βουλομένοις φίλοις ἡμῶν, πρὸς δ' αὐτὸν τὸν βίον παιδείαν εἶναι οἰομένοις οὐ χαρίσεται τὰ λεγόμενά μοι, τοῖς δὲ τὸν βίον παιδείαν εἶναι ἤδη ἐπεγνωκόσι οὔδεν θαύμαστον λέγων, ἴσως δ' οὔδεν ἁπλῶς λέγων φανήσομαι. Ὅμῶς δὲ δηλοῦν τὴν γνωμὴν ἐβουλόμην ἐν τοῖς ἐλαχίστοις οἰόμενος πράγμασι δύνασθαι ἀνευρεθῆναί τινα τῆς ἀληθείας πηγὴν. Κεχαρίσθω δὴ ἐκεῖνο τὸ βιβλίον τοῖς φλυαρήμασι ἡδομένοις, οὐ γὰρ δυσαρεστοῦμαι, οὐδ' ἀρνήσομαι τὸ χαρίεν τι καὶ τοῖς τοιούτοις ὑπάρχειν, προτέινων μέντοι τὸ σωφρονίζειν εἶναι τὸ Ἑλληνικὸν πολὺ μᾶλλον τοῦ Ἑλληνιστὶ λαλεῖν, οὐ μεθέξω τῶν τοιούτων ἡδονῶν. Καί σε τὴν ὀνείροις τερπομένην, ὦ βελτίστη, τοῖς λόγοις οὕσπερ ἄρτι ἔλεγον μὴ ἀρέσεσθαι οἰόμενος ἐρήσομαί τινος περὶ βούλει διαλέγεσθαί μοι; εἰ βούλει, οὐ δυσχερανῶ, εἀν δυνῶμαι, τὸ διὰ ἐλεκτρονικὰ λαλεῖν γράμματα περὶ ὅτουπερ ἀν βούλῃ, ἐκ παλαιτέρου ἅτε ἐπιποθῶν τὴν τοιαύτην ὁμιλίαν. Εἰ δὲ μὴ, χαῖρε τὸ δεύτερον. Συγγνωμὴν δ' αἰτοῦμαι ἄκομψος φαινόμενός σοι, εἰ καὶ μὴ βούλομενος. Again, I have no idea what it means... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5229 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 20 of 20 09 June 2011 at 8:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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Not that I mind, but this seems like a rather clunky means of exchanging letters. Why not just trade email addresses?
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