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| ihaveacomputer Triglot Newbie Canada Joined 6834 days ago 21 posts - 52 votes  Speaks: English*, Hindi, Punjabi Studies: Urdu, Italian | Message 1 of 6 08 September 2006 at 9:23pm | IP Logged |
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Is Punjabi in fact an agglutinative language? The Wikipedia article claims that it is, saying that it is unusual for a Indo-European language, yet true none-the-less. What makes Punjabi agglutinative, exactly? People have said that Hindi and Punjabi are extremely similar grammatically wise, but how can this be true if Punjabi is agglutinative?
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| Heinrich S. Groupie Germany Joined 6937 days ago 63 posts - 85 votes Studies: French | Message 2 of 6 16 June 2011 at 7:46am | IP Logged |
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Sorry, this is very interesting, so can anyone provide information on this?
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| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5229 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 3 of 6 16 June 2011 at 6:01pm | IP Logged |
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Which Wikipedia article is this that says Punjabi is agglutinative? I can't find it.
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| unzum Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom soyouwanttolearnalan Joined 6915 days ago 371 posts - 478 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Mandarin | Message 4 of 6 16 June 2011 at 6:04pm | IP Logged |
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Well, just going from my basic linguistic knowledge and Wikipedia searching skills...
It seems that both Hindi and Punjabi are Subject-Object-Verb languages and both use postpositions instead of prepositions (which English uses). I couldn't find a quote in the Wikipedia article that said Punjabi was an agglutinative language, however they do state this in the UCLA Punjabi Profile. Perhaps it's the case that Punjabi has some agglutinative features but isn't a fully agglutinative language (I didn't find it listed in the Wikipedia Agglutinative Language article) . And seeing as Hindi and Punjabi both come from the same language family (Indo-Aryan from the Indo-European family) it makes sense as to why they would be similar grammatically. No idea why agglutinative languages are rare in Indo-European languages or why Punjabi is agglutinative. I'll bow out and let someone else who knows more about these particular languages chime in. Edited by unzum on 16 June 2011 at 6:05pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Afgjasmine16 Triglot Newbie United States Joined 6007 days ago 29 posts - 55 votes Speaks: Pashto*, English, Hindi Studies: Bengali, Tamil, Indonesian, Turkish | Message 5 of 6 19 June 2011 at 7:58am | IP Logged |
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Im almost 80 percent sure Punjabi isn't agglutinative. I'm pretty profecient in Hindi and I cna understand quite a bit of Punjabi. Punjabi has tones and postpostions. But I've never heard of Punjabi being agglutinative.
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| ihaveacomputer Triglot Newbie Canada Joined 6834 days ago 21 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English*, Hindi, Punjabi Studies: Urdu, Italian | Message 6 of 6 20 June 2011 at 7:44pm | IP Logged |
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You're all unable to find the mention of Punjabi being agglutinative on Wikipedia
because I originally posted this thread five years ago! Many thanks to Heinrich for its revival, however; I have since taken up study of Punjabi, including a year spent studying the language in Punjab, itself. Perhaps I can now answer my own question. Punjabi is not agglutinative. Were one to label it as such, many other Indo-European languages would fall under the same category. Comparing Punjabi to Hindi, the structure of both languages differ in a few very minor ways. Some Punjabi-specific noun constructions maintain old case structures from Sanskrit: the locative, instrumental and the ablative. These are not exactly widespread in the language, however, and tend to be restricted to certain contexts. That which is most widespread, the ablative, seems to actually be the tacking on of the postposition "toM" to the end of the word as an affix, "-oM", as opposed to a maintained Sanskrit case, though I'm not clear on this. I suppose this feature could be termed agglutinative. It's the only one I can really think of which possibly fits the bill. Edited by ihaveacomputer on 20 June 2011 at 7:46pm 5 persons have voted this message useful |
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