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Ultimate Japanese or Assimil Japanese?

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tsp_uk
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 Message 9 of 20
15 March 2008 at 1:18pm | IP Logged 
I used "Japanese for Everyone". This book is cheap and uses Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji throughout the book. I definitely advise you to check it out, although the mp3s might be a bit hard to access. I definitely recommend this book as it has many exercises, the book is packed with grammar and does not waste any page space! You can see the first chapter on amazon. By the 3rd/4th chapter romaji is no longer used. . . which I think is great for any learner to stop relying on Romaji and to actually learn Kana.    
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vykis92
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 Message 10 of 20
20 October 2010 at 5:54pm | IP Logged 
Hey, if I have audio of "assimil japones sans peine 1&2 tome" 3rd edition will it fit with English versions "japanese with ease v.1&2" from 2005?
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Chris
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Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish
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 Message 11 of 20
20 October 2010 at 7:20pm | IP Logged 
Living Language Japanese - go for it!

Another course I love is 'Japanese In Three Months' initially released as 'Japanese Simplified.'

'Japanese For Busy People' - a useful set of texts to be sure but dreary recordings.
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delta910
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 Message 12 of 20
20 October 2010 at 8:30pm | IP Logged 
I say get both! More resources to help you out the better I say. Also, I would look into using LingQ.com. They have
Japanese there with a ton of content with text and audio. I'm using it for my Spanish and German at the moment
and I love it! It's a resource you should look into.
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vykis92
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 Message 13 of 20
13 November 2010 at 5:55pm | IP Logged 
hey, I've just bought Assimil japanese v.1 course and I wonder what is the average pace to complete v.1 and v.2? And what is the exact purpose of "Assimil Japanese Kanji stroke by stroke" is it introduces only those kanjis used in v.1 & v.2 or it independantly teaches you the core kanjis? (Btw how many kanjis I can find in this book?)
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zerothinking
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 Message 14 of 20
14 November 2010 at 9:18am | IP Logged 
Don't waste your money. Go with Assimil!
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RealJames
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 Message 15 of 20
14 November 2010 at 10:20am | IP Logged 
I think it depends on if you want to focus on conversational or written Japanese.

I honestly think they should be studied separately, due to the complexity of kanji, the best resources for it are not the best for conversation.
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AntonioJBrown
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 Message 16 of 20
22 November 2010 at 9:04am | IP Logged 
I'm not sure of your exact goals. Do you intend to focus on conversation ? Do you want
to get totally fluent or just learn some phrases for travel ? I studied Japanese quite
a bit some years ago while teaching English in Japan. Recently I have been dabbling in
it again. I have to say though that Japanese is probably the language with the best by
far learning materials available. There are so many high quality textbooks and audio
resources available !!

Of the two you asked about I would pick assimil. But the best resources I have seen for
learning Japanese are those published by coscom. I use their Japanese verbs CD-rom all
the time. If you are a beginner you can try their japanese on the web course, or one of
their CDs such as Japanese@once

Honestly they have great sentences, great voice acting, and clear explanations. I've no
idea why people stick with inferior materials like Pimsleur. I have no financial
interest in the company, I'm just a satisfied customer.

Other useful resources are the book "Japanese Sentence Patterns for Effective
Communication", it summarises all the basic sentence patterns and grammar you need for
conversation. If you want a textbook "Japanese for Everyone" mentioned above is decent,
but might overwhelm a complete beginner because of the high density of information.
Something like the book "Genki" might be easier.




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