tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5452 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 33 of 41 10 March 2010 at 10:28pm | IP Logged |
arkady wrote:
This is the reason people learn Latin, yet for some odd reaosn no one ever questions Latin
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Oh yes, they do.
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1qaz2wsx Diglot Groupie Greece Joined 5372 days ago 98 posts - 124 votes Speaks: Greek*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Albanian
| Message 34 of 41 10 March 2010 at 10:57pm | IP Logged |
LanguageSponge wrote:
- Russian doesn't have different accents or dialects - I think this has something to do with the Russian language only being standardised very recently (I think Pushkin was credited as being the Father of Modern Russian) and therefore Russia hasn't had the time to develop dialects just yet despite its size.
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I don't agree with you that Russian has no dialects.There are differences in the pronounciation and in the choice of words.Educated people tend to use more words of latin origin,whereas rural people use Slavic ones which in many occasions are not widely used.In some countries these local variations would be considered entirely different languages.(see Serbian and Croatian)
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arkady Bilingual Diglot Groupie United States rightconditi Joined 5399 days ago 54 posts - 61 votes Speaks: English*, Russian* Studies: German
| Message 35 of 41 10 March 2010 at 11:20pm | IP Logged |
tractor wrote:
arkady wrote:
This is the reason people learn Latin, yet for some odd reaosn no one ever questions Latin
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Oh yes, they do. |
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Has not been my experience. I remember when I took Latin in HS, everyone automatically assumed it was strictly to enhance my English. Almost as if it was some magically understood concept.
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Johntm Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5421 days ago 616 posts - 725 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 36 of 41 11 March 2010 at 5:41am | IP Logged |
tractor wrote:
arkady wrote:
This is the reason people learn Latin, yet for some odd reaosn no one ever questions Latin
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Oh yes, they do. |
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I get that from my dad. Although I don't really care for Latin.
My dad always says "I still don't understand why you didn't take Spanish" and I respond saying the teachers are horrible, because everyone at my school says that :/
But Latin has helped me with Spanish (now that I started learning it) and with some English
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1qaz2wsx Diglot Groupie Greece Joined 5372 days ago 98 posts - 124 votes Speaks: Greek*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Albanian
| Message 37 of 41 11 March 2010 at 9:23am | IP Logged |
LanguageSponge wrote:
- Russian doesn't have different accents or dialects - I think this has something to do with the Russian language only being standardised very recently (I think Pushkin was credited as being the Father of Modern Russian) and therefore Russia hasn't had the time to develop dialects just yet despite its size.
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For example the word молоко is pronounced malako' in official russian but in some places it is pronounced moloko'.
Another example is the glottal sound close to greek 'γ' which is used in south russia instead of г.
The word город (go'rat) is pronounced γo'rat.
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dantalian Diglot Senior Member Bouvet Island Joined 5681 days ago 125 posts - 156 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German
| Message 38 of 41 11 March 2010 at 10:12pm | IP Logged |
1qaz2wsx wrote:
For example the word молоко is pronounced malako' in official russian but in some places it is pronounced moloko'.
Another example is the glottal sound close to greek 'γ' which is used in south russia instead of г.
The word город (go'rat) is pronounced γo'rat.
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Actually you should not pronounce the word «milk» as мАлАко in standard Russian as well :)
Unstressed O is normally pronounced intermediately between O and A. Sound files could be helpful to learn the pronunciation properly.
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1qaz2wsx Diglot Groupie Greece Joined 5372 days ago 98 posts - 124 votes Speaks: Greek*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Albanian
| Message 39 of 41 12 March 2010 at 8:30am | IP Logged |
dantalian wrote:
Actually you should not pronounce the word «milk» as мАлАко in standard Russian as well :)
Unstressed O is normally pronounced intermediately between O and A. Sound files could be helpful to learn the pronunciation properly.
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The international phonetic alphabet could help.I think the unstressed O is pronounced like an upside down 'e' in the IPA.
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1qaz2wsx Diglot Groupie Greece Joined 5372 days ago 98 posts - 124 votes Speaks: Greek*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Albanian
| Message 40 of 41 12 March 2010 at 8:33am | IP Logged |
1qaz2wsx wrote:
dantalian wrote:
Actually you should not pronounce the word «milk» as мАлАко in standard Russian as well :)
Unstressed O is normally pronounced intermediately between O and A. Sound files could be helpful to learn the pronunciation properly.
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The international phonetic alphabet could help.I think the unstressed O is pronounced like an upside down 'e' in the IPA. |
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Like this: 'ə'.
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