Marchmallow Newbie England Joined 5005 days ago 9 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 1 of 3 15 March 2011 at 10:38am | IP Logged |
I have Michel Thomas, and for some reason he steers completely clear of case, though his verb coverage is solid. I wondered if Pimsleur covers the dative, accusative, etc..?
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Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5566 days ago 938 posts - 1840 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 2 of 3 15 March 2011 at 11:23pm | IP Logged |
It depends what you mean by cover - MT covers cases in the sense that he distinguishes between the nominative ich/Sie, the accusative mich/Sie and the dative mir/Ihnen, etc but scores a total fail in failing to give much more.
Pimsleur German I-III like all Pimsleur does not formally teach grammar and so it doesn't explicitly - what it does do is have the American voice artist say 'In this sentence the word for X is ....' and then the German voice artist says the properly inflected word in the right case. So you have to infer the general rule from the sentence you are given. IIRC stuff like case changes caused by different prepositions are not taught, or at least not taught in a way that you could independently infer the rule beyond the example.
As a English speaker who took up language learning late I find German cases to be pretty hard (especially when they are not 'logical' - such as why certain verbs like Helfen take a direct object in the dative case) - but I found the Hugo German in 3 Months to be pretty useful on this for formal explanation, along with Assimil and Linguaphone for observing it in practice.
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Marchmallow Newbie England Joined 5005 days ago 9 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 3 of 3 17 March 2011 at 11:56am | IP Logged |
I actually have that Hugo book, but I haven't really gone through it - I'll have a better look now, thanks for the info!
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