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| Desertbandit Groupie Netherlands Joined 5101 days ago 80 posts - 104 votes  Speaks: Arabic (Iraqi)* | Message 1 of 11 20 March 2011 at 11:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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I can't find much about it.
Can someone tell me his opinion about this book ? and does it work? Cause I find Assimil highly effective in my opinion and IT works ..so I wondered wether this wonderfull course also works so well for writing kanji . 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| LatinoBoy84 Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5576 days ago 443 posts - 603 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Latvian | Message 2 of 11 21 March 2011 at 1:55am | IP Logged | ||
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I have the Mandarin Chinese version of the course. The books contain all the characters
and meanings in the order they appeared in volume 1&2. Instructions are stroke by stroke, the book also has a dictionary at the end with pinyin/character/English. Very useful if you have worked through both volumes already. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Dragonsheep Groupie United States Joined 5271 days ago 46 posts - 63 votes Studies: Tagalog, English* Studies: Japanese, Latin | Message 3 of 11 21 March 2011 at 8:01am | IP Logged | ||
Does the book contain compounds or just individual characters? Pronounciations? Are the listed in an entry format or a lesson format? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| melitu Groupie United States Joined 6161 days ago 42 posts - 38 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 4 of 11 21 March 2011 at 8:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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The Assimil Japanese kanji book contains the characters in the order they appeared in
the lessons. In this respect, it's not a "logical" way to learn the characters, that is, each character's components aren't necessarily learned before that particular character is learned. If you learn all 214 radicals (listed by number of strokes in the book's appendix) before starting the book, it might be less of an issue. Each entry has: - kunyomi and onyomi pronunciations for all forms that appeared in Assimil 1&2 - compounds (with pronunciations) containing that kanji in the two books - meanings for both the character and compounds - stroke order - lesson(s) and where in the lesson(s) the character appears in Assimil 1&2 Also, as a result of being tied heavily to Assimil 1&2, it won't teach you all the joyo kanji. A nice plus of the book is that it has all the lessons from 1&2 in an appendix, written as a normal Japanese book would be written: kanji/hiragana/katakana with no furigana and normal spacing, text flowing top to bottom, then right to left, with the pages starting towards the "back" of the book progressing towards the "front". I wouldn't buy the book just for this part, but it is a nice add-on. Does it work? I feel like all kanji books boil down to the same thing. You'll have to come up with mnemonics to remember them (though some books help with the mnemonics part), it's probably helpful to study with the aid of an SRS, and you'll need regular practice with the characters (what's nice about readers). If you've already worked through Assimil 1&2, you'll be tying already learned vocabulary (sounds) with the characters, so it could be a good starter kanji book. If you haven't already used Assimil, then the character ordering doesn't really make sense. In summary, the main cons might be: - order of entries - only a subset of joyo kanji - need to come up with own mnemonics (Edit: Text flows top to bottom, RIGHT TO LEFT in normal Japanese novels.) Edited by melitu on 21 March 2011 at 8:55pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| vykis92 Groupie LithuaniaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5316 days ago 68 posts - 71 votes Studies: Spanish | Message 5 of 11 21 March 2011 at 8:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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In "assimil: writing japanese" you find all the characters from 1st and 2nd volume listend in order they apear. With it you get stroke order, meaning, kun and On readings and also examples which may include compound if it is used in 1st or 2nd volume.
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| Desertbandit Groupie Netherlands Joined 5101 days ago 80 posts - 104 votes Speaks: Arabic (Iraqi)* | Message 6 of 11 21 March 2011 at 10:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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I thank you for all your help .
It seems writing Japanese is just a simple Kanji book . But I do not know, Im still working on Assimil 1&2 and haven't reall worked on Kanji so much so far...so I hoped that this book wouldm ake it easy to learn after Im done with Assimil . 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6380 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 7 of 11 22 March 2011 at 2:53am | IP Logged | ||
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Does the Writing Chinese with Ease also have the lessons from Vol 1 and 2 in characters?
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| GREGORG4000 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5524 days ago 307 posts - 479 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish Studies: Japanese, Korean, Amharic, French | Message 8 of 11 22 March 2011 at 4:07am | IP Logged | ||
Unfortunately not. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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