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| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7122 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes  Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 25 of 41 27 June 2005 at 9:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, that's the same one. Sorry - don't know what happened there! Edited by administrator on 28 June 2005 at 9:27am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7104 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 26 of 41 28 June 2005 at 7:41am | IP Logged | ||
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There is also a review of the German version here which is considerably more positive.
However, it appears that the author is overly taken with paroxysms of delight over the User Interface of the program and less concerned with telling you whether it's any good at teaching you German - although he does concede that it's not up to the job as a stand-alone tool. Andy. Edited by administrator on 28 June 2005 at 9:28am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| InsanePenguin Senior Member Wales Joined 6872 days ago 248 posts - 248 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 27 of 41 16 March 2006 at 11:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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I tried the Spanish version and It didn't do anything for me, maybe I needed more time but if I think I'm not benefitting I will change course quite quickly
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| CaitO'Ceallaigh Triglot Senior Member United States katiekelly.wordpress Joined 6858 days ago 795 posts - 829 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Russian Studies: Czech, German | Message 28 of 41 21 March 2006 at 1:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've used Spanish Levels II & III and thought it was helpful, but I don't think you could use this as a stand alone tool. I also thought I'd try the on-line version in Russian, as a review, but just couldn't do it. I could be wrong, but I thought they got some of the grammar wrong. I completely agree with the review (somewhere above) of the Russian version. I got a free French version, and I've been working through that for fun, just to hear the sounds. I have no expectation that I will suddenly be speaking French after this.
So I was actually filmed for a Rosetta Stone infomercial. I'd responded to an on-line survey. I ended up on the cutting room floor, I guess. My boyfriend, who had driven me to the filming, was filmed as well. We were filmed as a couple, magically brought together by Rosetta Stone. What had really happened was that I'd gotten him Rosetta Stone Italian I and II for Christmas. As we were getting our hair and make up done, another fellow, a graduate of the Russian course, was being filmed. It was in the living room of fancy house in the hills that the crew had acquired for the day, I guess. The interviewer sat behind the camera, asking various leading questions. It wasn't easy to do, because they needed us to say "interesting" things that sounded informative and spontaneous. I really have no idea if this fellow speaks Russian or not. He had to naturally say, "I don't know how it works, but it works!" Cut! Try again. Can you sound like you mean it this time? Well, I "failed" the interview. I couldn't give them the answer they wanted. And by then, I had a basic fluency. You'd think they'd be impressed! My boyfriend, on the other hand, picked up some Italian from his various trips to Italy, but never got past Lesson 1. (Spanish is his first language, which helps.) Well, somehow, his background in sales must have helped, because he said everything they wanted to hear. "Wow! Did you get that? Say it again!" "Rosetta Stone is a BRIDGE to other cultures. I've always loved Italy, and now I feel I can really appeciate the sights and sounds of the culture, because I FEEL the language within me." Cut! That was beautiful. None of this made it in, however, maybe because they couldn't edit out my own expressions of shock. I had no idea he got that much from just one lesson! But I did get a free French version, and now I can say meaningful phrases like, "Le chien est noir et blanc". Before you scoff, I didn't even have to think about it. So I have no idea if it works or not, but I'll work through Level I for a lark. Will I REALLY speak French? I doubt it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sir Nigel Senior Member United States Joined 7105 days ago 1126 posts - 1102 votes 2 sounds | Message 29 of 41 21 March 2006 at 1:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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That's too cool. I mean sure you didn't get into the final part of the interview, but that they actually filmed you.
You're explanation of RS is about what I think about it too. It helps some, but isn't a reliable stand alone tool for language learning. Since you're doing French I can say that it will help your spelling and reading if you do all the dictation exercises. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sierra Diglot Senior Member Turkey livinginlights.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 7125 days ago 296 posts - 411 votes Speaks: English*, SwedishB1 Studies: Turkish | Message 30 of 41 29 December 2006 at 10:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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To revive an old discussion...
I wasn't a big fan of Rosetta Stone back when I tried using it for French, but I just started RS Arabic today and I'm already finding that it's helping me more than I imagined it would. Mostly what surprises me is how effective it is in teaching me the script- without focusing on it AT ALL. I started picking out letters on my own about fifteen minutes after I started up the program. Of course, it won't get me to any advanced level of fluency, but it definitely is taking the edge off those first wobbly steps into a new language. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7016 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 31 of 41 30 December 2006 at 3:57am | IP Logged | ||
I think that it's more useful for languages with different alphabets (e.g. Arabic) or for languages without alphabets (e.g. Chinese). Out of curiosity, where did you get your copy of RS? You can find cheap(er) copies on eBay, although you've got to be careful when shopping there. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sierra Diglot Senior Member Turkey livinginlights.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 7125 days ago 296 posts - 411 votes Speaks: English*, SwedishB1 Studies: Turkish | Message 32 of 41 30 December 2006 at 8:40am | IP Logged | ||
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I think you're probably right, patuco.
I haven't yet thrown my two cents into the discussion about which stage of language learning is the most difficult, but for me it's without a doubt the first few days and weeks of studying. You're really forced to deal with a lot at once- basic grammar, a LOT of basic vocabulary, how things generally ought to be pronounced, and in some cases a new alphabet entirely; it's definitely during this stage my interest is in the most danger of flagging. If I can make it just to the point where I can read a children's book or confidently describe something in simple sentences, I've gotten past the worst of it. That's how I forsee Rosetta Stone helping me. After only a day using their Arabic program, I think it's doing a terrific job of teaching me all of the above as painlessly as possible. I'll probably stop using it when I reach the level I described. Of course, it's quite an expensive program to use just for that purpose, but I fortunately got my copy from a friend. :) Also, I see you're studying Arabic... what have been your favorite programs? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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