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robsolete
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 Message 57 of 76
06 January 2011 at 1:48pm | IP Logged 
When someone says something negative about a language that goes beyond "I'm personally
not attracted to it" it really just flagrantly displays their ignorance. I try not to get
offended by the words of ignorant people, because life is too short.

Regarding English in particular, it does get a bit old to hear the many complaints. I can
completely understand the frustration with having to learn a tricky language in order to
get ahead in life, and as a native speaker I know that I'll never truly "get it" so I
can't judge people who complain about it.

That said, there isn't some sort of secret conspiracy or cabal to make everyone learn
English, and if there is I'm certainly not part of it. So the handful of times I've had
people take out their frustrations regarding English *on me* I've gotten irritated.
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Impiegato
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 Message 58 of 76
06 January 2011 at 7:10pm | IP Logged 
I don't like when people say that Swedish is an easy language. The reason is obvious: claiming that a language is easy is similar to claiming that you can express only simple thoughts in that language.
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Darklight1216
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 Message 59 of 76
06 January 2011 at 7:24pm | IP Logged 
I can't say that I've really encountered this yet. The closet thing I've experienced would be Americans complaining about English spelling.

Maybe my hatred of Spanish counts?
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Naomi Chambers
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 Message 60 of 76
07 January 2011 at 2:47am | IP Logged 
I think that everyone is entitled to their own opinions about languages. Some people think German is ugly. Some think Arabic is harsh and gutteral.

Just as we have the right to say some languages are beautiful, we also have the right to say some languages are ugly.
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Naomi Chambers
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 Message 61 of 76
07 January 2011 at 2:59am | IP Logged 
Impiegato wrote:
I don't like when people say that Swedish is an easy language. The reason is obvious: claiming that a language is easy is similar to claiming that you can express only simple thoughts in that language.


swedish is the hardest language i have ever studied
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robsolete
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 Message 62 of 76
08 January 2011 at 7:10pm | IP Logged 
Naomi Chambers wrote:
I think that everyone is entitled to their own opinions about
languages. Some people think German is ugly. Some think Arabic is harsh and gutteral.

Just as we have the right to say some languages are beautiful, we also have the right
to say some languages are ugly.


There's a difference between "I find this language unattractive" and "This language is
ugly." It might just be a pet peeve of mine, but I think that framing your subjective
opinion as an objective statement is kind of silly, and can be taken as rude.

If someone says "I don't care for the sound of English and I think it's becoming too
dominant in the world" then I might agree on some points. If someone says "English
sounds like snakes hissing and it's taking over the world" then I'm going to get
irritated.
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kmart
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 Message 63 of 76
08 January 2011 at 10:59pm | IP Logged 
Impiegato wrote:
I don't like when people say that Swedish is an easy language. The reason is obvious: claiming that a language is easy is similar to claiming that you can express only simple thoughts in that language.

Perhaps it means that the language has been better-developed, in order to render it so logical and easy to learn, and is actually a compliment to the language. And in any case, ease of learning is often proportional to the relationship of the target language to the native one eg Italian is very easy to learn for a Spanish speaker, that says nothing about the complexity of Italian.
Tonal languages are usually very difficult for Western tongues to master, it doesn't follow that those language express more complex thoughts.
Don't be offended that people think your language is easy, be proud that your ancestors had the superior intelligence to develop a coherent and logical language structure.
;-)
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Merv
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 Message 64 of 76
08 January 2011 at 11:19pm | IP Logged 
I find no correlation between language difficulty and civilizational level. We often find that more primitive peoples,
such as hunter gathering tribes, have vastly more complex languages than those of more advanced peoples, such as
industrial societies. And the complexity is not due to randomness, but is systematic and coherent. I don't think this
inherent complexity necessarily makes expression more or less difficult than in "easy" languages.


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